Cotto vs Martinez

[Sun_Tzu]

I took a many year hiatus from this forum so i wasnt here for this fight. I have that entire card on my dvr and im watching it now. Im curious what the consensus was at the time. Ill tell you what I thought after watching Martinez destroy Paul Williams I thought Cotto might have bite off more than he could chew but I was happy to see him move up and give it a shot. As it turned out Cotto blew him out.

Ill be honest with you i didnt really like martinez at the time because of the **** he talked to Cotto. I didnt really understand it at the time but Ive come to like him after watching his documentary and ive never really understood the hate so called boxing fans have for Cotto. Im just curious what the pulse was at that time for this fight.

[SunSpace]

Most people thought Martinez would win the fight; Martinez had been battling a knee injury, but he declared that through rehab it had been restored to an efficient level. The thought at the time was that Martinez would be too much for Cotto to handle, overall.

It turns out that it was the total opposite of what most people expected. Cotto "haters" have ever since insisted on chucking it up to Martinez's knee, and they thereby use it as a way to avoid giving Cotto credit for his historic achievement (first 4 division champion in PR's history).

Personally, I always knew Cotto would have Martinez's number, even years before this fight happened. Martinez was the equivalent of GGG back then, and most people laughed at me for it. But, it was indeed sweet to have been proven right.

Cotto's an elite fighter who will end his career as an ATG. It'll be hard to find anyone on here who gives him the credit he deserves, but I've thoroughly enjoyed his career, especially considering what he had to come back from (Margarito's wraps).

[Doctor_Tenma]

I told people it wasn't only a fight Cotto can win, it was one he was suppose to win. Most importantly what went ignored, it was that Cotto was far more skilled than anyone Martinez had ever faced and that wasn't even debatable.

At the time people were too stuck on what Trout did to Cotto, which made absolutely no sense because Trout and Martinez fight nothing alike. Trout doesn't step into his punches like Martinez, which made Trout less susceptible to being countered. Trout at that time was far more committed to fighting behind a stick, even if it meant landing meaningless punches. Just too different of a scenario.


Oh and Cotto would have always beaten Martinez. Martinez always had stamina issues throughout his career and fought in spurts as a result, that's all too favorable for Cotto.

[Sun_Tzu]

Most people thought Martinez would win the fight; Martinez had been battling a knee injury, but he declared that through rehab it had been restored to an efficient level. The thought at the time was that Martinez would be too much for Cotto to handle, overall.

It turns out that it was the total opposite of what most people expected. Cotto "haters" have ever since insisted on chucking it up to Martinez's knee, and they thereby use it as a way to avoid giving Cotto credit for his historic achievement (first 4 division champion in PR's history).

Personally, I always knew Cotto would have Martinez's number, even years before this fight happened. Martinez was the equivalent of GGG back then, and most people laughed at me for it. But, it was indeed sweet to have been proven right.

Cotto's an elite fighter who will end his career as an ATG. It'll be hard to find anyone on here who gives him the credit he deserves, but I've thoroughly enjoyed his career, especially considering what he had to come back from (Margarito's wraps).

Thank you for answering. I cant say I Knew Cotto had his number but I knew he would fight until he was done.I can tell you it was one of the most enjoyable fights Ive seen in years. I personally love Cotto and Im truly appalled by the hate he gets. I was on my feet the entire fight. Its interesting to me that you dont like Golovkin. They are very similar.

How did you get so much red in 400 posts, lol. If i knew how to do it id give you some green to even it out.

[Sun_Tzu]

I told people it wasn't only a fight Cotto can win, it was one he was suppose to win. Most importantly what went ignored, it was that Cotto was far more skilled than anyone Martinez had ever faced and that wasn't even debatable.

At the time people were too stuck on what Trout did to Cotto, which made absolutely no sense because Trout and Martinez fight nothing alike. Trout doesn't step into his punches like Martinez, which made Trout less susceptible to being countered. Trout at that time was far more committed to fighting behind a stick, even if it meant landing meaningless punches. Just too different of a scenario.


Oh and Cotto would have always beaten Martinez. Martinez always had stamina issues throughout his career and fought in spurts as a result, that's all too favorable for Cotto.

Im not going to be one of these guys (not saying you are) that says , ah hell i knew he would win. I was a little concerned, as soon as he landed that first hook in the 1st round from that point on I agree with you. I dont think martinez could have ever beat Cotto.

[Earl-Hickey]

Martinez had one knee.

If people can't see that he was A) disabled in that fight and B) over the hill anyway I don't know what to tell you.

Cotto has losses to Alvarez where he was bullied, marg and pac where he quit, trout where he was schooled, clottey Floyd and mosley

Cotto is the biggest fabrication in boxing

[Sun_Tzu]

Martinez had one knee.

If people can't see that he was A) disabled in that fight and B) over the hill anyway I don't know what to tell you.

Cotto has losses to Alvarez where he was bullied, marg and pac where he quit, trout where he was schooled, clottey Floyd and mosley

Cotto is the biggest fabrication in boxing

This would be a decent troll but he beat Clottey and Mosley pretty easy. Ill give you a mulligan, try again.

[PivotandRoll]

This would be a decent troll but he beat Clottey and Mosley pretty easy. Ill give you a mulligan, try again.

Yeah the Mosley/Clottey myth is one of the biggest case of fighters getting credit for doing better than they were supposed to.

[bojangles1987]

Sergio had spent years battling knee problems and was fighting one-legged against Cotto. I can't give him much credit for winning that fight.

[lopetego]

Only Cotto nuthuggers give him any kind of credit for beating a cripple who shouldnt have even been allowed to get in the ring to begin with

Martinez looked like **** against Murray, a shadow of his former self, and he actually lost that fight. He never recovered from the knee injury against Chavez

but that same Martinez didn't look nearly as terrible as the one gimp with two knee braces that Cotto fought

Cotto the vulture deserves zero credit for the W and Martinez deserves scorn from the fans for conning everyone, he lied and fooled the fans just to cash out. anyone in the top 20 MW would have slaughtered that Martinez