The Rocky Movies = the white man's dream?

**a9s8f78wgh5g8hjwoivq** · 07-13-2016, 10:55 AM

It's a movie homeboy. Meanwhile a white man has dominated the HW division for the last 11 years so not too unbelieveable, along with his white brother. Only to be defeated by a, you guessed it, white man. LOL

**Joe Beamish** · 07-13-2016, 10:58 AM

Not exactly an original, news-breaking thought. Everybody knows it's a white man's fantasy on the big screen. And look at those fight scenes if you want to see some of the most unrealistic boxing on earth.

**Luilun** · 07-13-2016, 11:01 AM

Originally posted by TheBoxingXpert

Let's break down some of the fights in the series...

1: White Rocky vs. Black Spider Rico (Rocky wins)
2: White Rocky vs. Black Apollo (Apollo wins a controversial decision)
3: White Rocky vs. Black Apollo (Rocky wins)
4: White Rocky vs. Black Lang (Rocky loses, but wins the rematch)
5: White Rocky vs. Black Lang (Rocky wins)
6: White Drago vs. Black Apollo (Drago literally kills him)
7: White Tommy vs. Black Sparring Partner (Tommy beats him until Rocky has to stop it)
8: White Tommy vs. Black Cane (Tommy wins)
9: White Rocky vs. Black Duke (Rocky punches him so he flies up on top of a car)
10: White Rocky vs. Black Dixon (Rocky lost in one ending and won in another ending, but he was old and that's implied plenty of times in the movie to be the only reason why he didn't dominate Dixon)
11: White Conlan vs. Black Creed (Conlan wins)

Why does black people have such a horribly low winning percentage in the Rocky movies and when they win, it's only to lose in the rematch? Even if I didn't know that Stallone is white, then I would have assumed it immediately while watching those movies. I'm like, seriously... WTF.

Your living in the Past White dudes are stomping on the brothers from 160 to Heavyweight and Lomachenko is doing in the lower weights

**Lester Tutor** · 07-13-2016, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by TheBoxingXpert

Let's break down some of the fights in the series...

1: White Rocky vs. Black Spider Rico (Rocky wins)
2: White Rocky vs. Black Apollo (Apollo wins a controversial decision)
3: White Rocky vs. Black Apollo (Rocky wins)
4: White Rocky vs. Black Lang (Rocky loses, but wins the rematch)
5: White Rocky vs. Black Lang (Rocky wins)
6: White Drago vs. Black Apollo (Drago literally kills him)
7: White Tommy vs. Black Sparring Partner (Tommy beats him until Rocky has to stop it)
8: White Tommy vs. Black Cane (Tommy wins)
9: White Rocky vs. Black Duke (Rocky punches him so he flies up on top of a car)
10: White Rocky vs. Black Dixon (Rocky lost in one ending and won in another ending, but he was old and that's implied plenty of times in the movie to be the only reason why he didn't dominate Dixon)
11: White Conlan vs. Black Creed (Conlan wins)

Why does black people have such a horribly low winning percentage in the Rocky movies and when they win, it's only to lose in the rematch? Even if I didn't know that Stallone is white, then I would have assumed it immediately while watching those movies. I'm like, seriously... WTF.

It's not really "rocky" or Stallone's call. It's the Producers in Hollywood that approve the scripts. Just like Summer Redstone's foundation of BET...

status quos my brothers. status quos...

justified by what the "American" public wants and the script approved..

**TheBoxingXpert** · 07-13-2016, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by Luilun

Your living in the Past White dudes are stomping on the brothers from 160 to Heavyweight and Lomachenko is doing in the lower weights

At heavyweight, yeah, Fury is the king, but don't count out Wilder, Ortiz and especially not Joshua. It will soon be a black division again.

As for 168+175, Ward will take over it all and then the white people can share the cruiserweight division if they want.

Lomachenko is nothing compared to Walters. Walters will destroy him easier than he destroyed Donaire. Walters doesn't go around losing to guys like SALIDO...

Rigo dominated an entire division, welterweight is only for blacks (Thurman, Brook, Porter, etc.), and do NOT forget Mayweather.

Blacks are still the defining force of boxing.

**therealpugilist** · 07-13-2016, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by Luilun

Your living in the Past White dudes are stomping on the brothers from 160 to Heavyweight and Lomachenko is doing in the lower weights

not really
160 Canelo is/was lineal...GGG is Kaz/asian....the rest is a mixed group top ten at that weight

168 the two top guys are black and the other mexican

175 the top guys are Kov and Stevenson....ward is coming soon

200 is def dominated by europeans

heavyweight has a UK champ now...Wlad was underrated man, people didnt like his style but he is an ATG..the other top guys are from everywhere....joshua and wilder are right behind him

I dont get the obsession with race on this forum but The europeans have great amatuer programs...its nice to see it translate into pro success over the last 2 decades instead of seeing grown men fighting kids in the olympics and they turn pro sooner now

**Lester Tutor** · 07-13-2016, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by therealpugilist

not really
160 Canelo is/was lineal...GGG is Kaz/asian....the rest is a mixed group top ten at that weight

168 the two top guys are black and the other mexican

175 the top guys are Kov and Stevenson....ward is coming soon

200 is def dominated by europeans

heavyweight has a UK champ now...Wlad was underrated man, people didnt like his style but he is an ATG..the other top guys are from everywhere....joshua and wilder are right behind him

I dont get the obsession with race on this forum but The europeans have great amatuer programs...its nice to see it translate into pro success over the last 2 decades instead of seeing grown men fighting kids in the olympics and they turn pro sooner now

Klitschko brothers had it easy, but ze Meldoniumz had its reign, so they say... Sharapova be like, "well, I didn't know..."

**////** · 07-13-2016, 12:00 PM

Well this is a silly example. It was Stallone's movie of course he was going to win most of the time.

However, what you're alluding to, the same thing happens in the other direction. In the US, "the heavyweight champion" is usually some cast as a generic black guy even though the upper divisions have been mostly white for like 15 years.

Stereotypes usually lag behind reality for a while.

**killakali** · 07-13-2016, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by TheBoxingXpert

Let's break down some of the fights in the series...

1: White Rocky vs. Black Spider Rico (Rocky wins)
2: White Rocky vs. Black Apollo (Apollo wins a controversial decision)
3: White Rocky vs. Black Apollo (Rocky wins)
4: White Rocky vs. Black Lang (Rocky loses, but wins the rematch)
5: White Rocky vs. Black Lang (Rocky wins)
6: White Drago vs. Black Apollo (Drago literally kills him)
7: White Tommy vs. Black Sparring Partner (Tommy beats him until Rocky has to stop it)
8: White Tommy vs. Black Cane (Tommy wins)
9: White Rocky vs. Black Duke (Rocky punches him so he flies up on top of a car)
10: White Rocky vs. Black Dixon (Rocky lost in one ending and won in another ending, but he was old and that's implied plenty of times in the movie to be the only reason why he didn't dominate Dixon)
11: White Conlan vs. Black Creed (Conlan wins)

Why does black people have such a horribly low winning percentage in the Rocky movies and when they win, it's only to lose in the rematch? Even if I didn't know that Stallone is white, then I would have assumed it immediately while watching those movies. I'm like, seriously... WTF.

Nah. I think Kovalev and the Klitschko's are the white mans dream

The Rocky Movies = the white man's dream?