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  • MDPopescu
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    #11
    Originally posted by LacedUp
    To be fair to Bellew he was a carcass at 175.
    ... though he isn't "naturally" bigger than Zurdo Ramirez...

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    • LacedUp
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      #12
      Originally posted by MDPopescu
      ... though he isn't "naturally" bigger than Zurdo Ramirez...
      Well I'm not sure about that + body's work in different ways.

      Callum Smith is 6'4 and looks like a CW, yet miraculously makes 168 and makes it with not many issues.

      The issue probably gets bigger as you get older and your metabolism slows done, so you won't lose the weight as easily as you might have done when you were 25-26 years old.

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        #13
        Originally posted by LacedUp
        Well I'm not sure about that + body's work in different ways.

        Callum Smith is 6'4 and looks like a CW, yet miraculously makes 168 and makes it with not many issues.

        The issue probably gets bigger as you get older and your metabolism slows done, so you won't lose the weight as easily as you might have done when you were 25-26 years old.
        Yes... Right...............

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          #14
          Originally posted by MDPopescu
          ... Bellew: "A lot of people are scared of Golovkin's power"...

          ... a lot of people understand that Golovkin isn't about "sheer power"... it's about a very complex skills set and sound boxing techniques...
          Well that's exactly it.

          Kell Brook can probably carry the weight very well and i'd actually give him a chance of beating a lot of the guys at 154 and 160.

          I just think moving up to fight a guy with that skill set from who he's been fighting is just too much of a stretch. I rate Brook highly but I think GGG is a superior boxer to Kell Brook in almost every department, not just power.

          If it was just about power such as fighting Lemieux, then it might be different, but it's much more than that.

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            #15
            Originally posted by deathofaclown
            Well that's exactly it.

            Kell Brook can probably carry the weight very well and i'd actually give him a chance of beating a lot of the guys at 154 and 160.

            I just think moving up to fight a guy with that skill set from who he's been fighting is just too much of a stretch. I rate Brook highly but I think GGG is a superior boxer to Kell Brook in almost every department, not just power.

            If it was just about power such as fighting Lemieux, then it might be different, but it's much more than that.
            ... as you may remember, GGG fought Lemieux from his back foot for a while...

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              #16
              Originally posted by lightsout_finit
              If this were true he wouldn't have fights where he uses the same strategy book as Brandon Rios...

              In some fights, specifically the ones where GGG is pumping out the jab he does indeed look skillfull. (Rosado, Lemieux etc)

              But fights like Murray and Monroe showed when under fire GGG natural tendency is to slug it out...
              Adama made him look foolish at times because of this....

              Even a lot of GGG early round blowouts show his natural instincts are to slug it out....

              Now I'm not calling GGG a fraud or anything. He's CLEARLY the top dog Middleweight and I like watching him fight...

              But when it comes down to it the guy is mainly a pressure fighter
              whose attacks and rhythm can become predictable in some fights...

              GGG relies completely on being able to punch A LOT harder than his rivals...
              Watch and (try to) learn...
              ... When you'll be able to understand this one, you might understand other things as well.

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                #17
                Originally posted by lightsout_finit
                GGG relies completely on being able to punch A LOT harder than his rivals...
                He does rely on stopping opponents, but he outsmarts and outthinks them before doing so. especially his footwork, timing, measuring of distance and ability to cut off the ring are all remarkable feats in his broader catalogue and really deep skillset. These are finesse skills not always visible to the naked eye, they are finer mechanics you notice when studying what he does in the ring carefully. Above all, of course, he just has really sound fundamentals and a fluidity to his whole game that makes him a treat to watch for any boxing aficionado.

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                  #18
                  Normally when a fighter steps up, they step up one weight and have a few fights at that weight to break themselves in. This is a guy (Brook) who has been fighting bums at his own weight now going up against a very good much bigger fighter with a iron-chin and a phenomenal punch.

                  If Brook carries no power up with him, he is in big trouble. I don't like these fights, someone will get seriously injured soon and everyone's going to be looking at boxing as a sport like "What were you doing??"

                  Khan had almost ridiculous belief in himself. I don't see that with Kell. I think as the fight approaches he's going to go into his shell. Bit like when Bruno fought Tyson.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by hugh grant
                    Brook may prove to be a special middleweight. Srrr did. Did the middleweight who fought srrr was he accused of cherry picking srr.?

                    Brook may make GGG lose confidence, he may hurt GGG and GGG will feel embarased a ww hurt him, even if GGG wins. If brook lasts longer than GGG thought he would as well, that may put GGG into deoression
                    so now is ok for MWs to fight WWs???
                    if that is the case then: bradley, you are next...

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Weltschmerz
                      He does rely on stopping opponents, but he outsmarts and outthinks them before doing so. especially his footwork, timing, measuring of distance and ability to cut off the ring are all remarkable feats in his broader catalogue and really deep skillset. These are finesse skills not always visible to the naked eye, they are finer mechanics you notice when studying what he does in the ring carefully. Above all, of course, he just has really sound fundamentals and a fluidity to his whole game that makes him a treat to watch for any boxing aficionado.
                      He's shown plenty of skill vs subpar competition, but vs better fighters? No one knows because he has ONLY fought subpar competition

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