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  • #81
    Originally posted by kafkod View Post
    I've never believed that GGG would be able to fight effectively at 154, or he would have done it by now. The big fights haven't exactly been falling into his lap at MW.

    The critical thing about GGG/Brook is how effective Brook will be against a MW after weighing in at 160. I've been a fan of Kell's since before he won his world title. And like a lot of his fans, I became so frustrated by his long periods of inactivity, sometimes unavoidable, that I virtually gave up hope of ever seeing him achieve what I though he could achieve in the sport when he was blowing away domestic opposition as a young prospect.

    One of the reasons why Brook made such slow progress was that either he, or somebody on his team, has a very calculating and careful head on their shoulders. Kel isn't short of options now to make money at 147. If he's moving up to 160, somebody who knows what they are about, and knows Kell Brook better than any of us, believes that he will handle that jump up well.

    It's been done before. SRL and Hearns were career WWs who moved up and competed with outstanding success at MW and SMW.

    You stated that Golovkin could beat Mayweather at 154 - MAYWEATHER, the best fighter in the world LMAO

    What a long-winded way to point out that this fight is a clear mismatch and an obvious cherry-pick.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by kafkod View Post
      Comparing the fight night weight of a man who weighed in at 147 to that of a man who weighed in at 160 is indeed irrelevant.

      But I think even you would have to agree that a man who has to work very hard to hit 147 - like Kell Brook - is going to be significantly bigger and stronger on fight night if he hasn't had to work hard to cut weight for that fight.

      No matter which way you spin it..... attempting to insinuate that there will not be a HUGE difference in size between a man who prepares for 147 and a man who prepares for 160, is stretching sensibility.

      Also, it is highly questionable that any additional weight that Brook packs on will be efficient/effective..... just like Khan.

      It can sometimes take years, or a number of fights, to truly acclimatize to a new division.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by casheddie View Post
        I don't see the issue, these guys spar with heavier boxers in the gym all the time. And with the IBF rules, they can't come in more than 10 lbs over the set weight on Fight Night. This is the most fair scenario for this fight.

        At least we know this fight won't end like the Khanelo fight did. it was pathetic and the only ppl that give Canelo credit for that KO, are casuals
        that didn't know Khan had a glass chin to begin with.

        hahaha let it all out Eddie.

        There is no difference whatsoever, get real.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
          No matter which way you spin it..... attempting to insinuate that there will not be a HUGE difference in size between a man who prepares for 147 and a man who prepares for 160, is stretching sensibility.

          Also, it is highly questionable that any additional weight that Brook packs on will be efficient/effective..... just like Khan.

          It can sometimes take years, or a number of fights, to truly acclimatize to a new division.
          they will ignore this, like they did in the past... brook should be ready to jump 2 divisons in two months...

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          • #85
            Originally posted by casheddie View Post
            Did you laugh at this as you wrote it?
            I'm guessing you have no idea what a training camp involves? Those 8 weeks, Brook will be hustling to build up his cardio for the fight. It's damn hard to put on any quality muscle when you're going all-in on stamina conditioning. The body just doesn't do both at the same time efficiently.

            Khan had more than 3 months to both bulk and condition and a lot of people don't even think that was enough for him, and that was 1 weight class. Brook is jumping two.

            I've heard several coaches say it often takes about a year and a half for a boxer to physically fully grow into a new weight class (which involves more than just eating more).
            "8 weeks doe... "

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            • #86
              Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
              I'm guessing you have no idea what a training camp involves? Those 8 weeks, Brook will be hustling to build up his cardio for the fight. It's damn hard to put on any quality muscle when you're going all-in on stamina conditioning. The body just doesn't do both at the same time efficiently.

              Khan had more than 3 months to both bulk and condition and a lot of people don't even think that was enough for him, and that was 1 weight class. Brook is jumping two.

              I've heard several coaches say it often takes about a year and a half for a boxer to physically fully grow into a new weight class (which involves more than just eating more).
              "8 weeks doe... "
              trust you to be on point....

              remember when Donaire first moved to 122 ?

              he just couldn't keep those 4lb's on during camp

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              • #87
                Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                trust you to be on point....

                remember when Donaire first moved to 122 ?

                he just couldn't keep those 4lb's on during camp
                Good example. Weight naturally comes off during training camp due to the nature of the training. Bulking is primarily an off-season thing. If Brook was about to fight at welter, no way is he properly bulked for MW, let alone a notoriously strong MW who starches everyone he fights at MW.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
                  Sir I applaude you, you just killed GGG with this.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by batista84 View Post
                    Sir I applaude you, you just killed GGG with this.
                    nope, the fanboys will have the excuses for anything...

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                    • #90
                      Loeffler be like, “I meant on the scales doe.”

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