Multi-weight champs vs. Undisputed champs?

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  • Larry the boss
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    #21
    Originally posted by Boxfan83
    GGG aside, lets say KKKovalev, beat Stevenson (and Ward never existed) Kovalev makes 20 successful defenses and retires. Then Broner happens to move up (1 day to JrMw) and beat a Liam Smith (type fighter) for his 5th divisional weight class? Whos better?
    who are those 20 defenses against? cause Stevenson isnt exactly beating anyone

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      #22
      Originally posted by larryxxx...
      Thats my point being undisputed seems to not be as hard these days either man
      But GGG is not undisputed. He's just a unified champ. Thats different than being undisputed.

      IMO its harder to be undisputed than it is to be a multi weight champ.

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        #23
        Originally posted by larryxxx...
        Except i didnt make this thread
        Ooooops. You're right, of course. Apologies.

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          #24
          Originally posted by boxinghead530
          But GGG is not undisputed. He's just a unified champ. Thats different than being undisputed.

          IMO its harder to be undisputed than it is to be a multi weight champ.
          He is one belt away and only won 1 in the ring

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          • Boxfan83
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            #25
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            Agreed. It's much harder to train and stay in shape year around then it is to eat and party and fight at whatever weight.

            Imagine praising Chavez Jr. for "moving up" while criticizing Hagler for staying at 160.
            You said Chavez Jr. and Hagler in the same sentence I get what you are saying but its just funny to read aloud...

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              #26
              Originally posted by Boxfan83
              And for the sake of the thread, lets say multi-division= 2-4 weight classes. I could think of a few current day multi division champs but the last undisputed (WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO) champ boxing had was B-Hop.

              So with that said, in your honest opinion, in present day boxing, which should be respected more? & why??
              Neither are more respected....its more about who you won your titles against and defended them against.

              Moving up is nice, but the talent level of the opponent is what makes it significant, not just the size.

              unification means something if you actually fight for your titles, and if the titleholders are pretty good.

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                #27
                Originally posted by larryxxx...
                who are those 20 defenses against? cause Stevenson isnt exactly beating anyone
                Just your average #1 contender. Im not saying Stevenson is great but he is a legit champion. TBH, most #1 contenders stop looking so good once a fighter is so dominate. Look at Klitchko, I think there comes a point where someone gets credit for making even the average Joe look bad...

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by larryxxx...
                  Who did you fight to get the title belts? RESUME!!!!
                  ^^^yup..name of the game is quality of opposition....the fighters make the belts, the belts dont make the fighters

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by larryxxx...
                    He is one belt away and only won 1 in the ring
                    Well if he gets that last belt there is no other champion to dispute his case as champion. Thats what undisputed means. Its not his fault he got there the way he did.

                    After he gets that last belt you cant dispute his case for being undisputed no matter how much you hate him.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Boxfan83
                      You said Chavez Jr. and Hagler in the same sentence I get what you are saying but its just funny to read aloud...
                      I know. But this is NSB.

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