More obliged to move up? Canelo or GGG?

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  • creekrat77
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    #1

    More obliged to move up? Canelo or GGG?

    Who is more obliged to move up?

    Canelo has been fighting at 154 for years.
    Pro's
    - Has a lot of trouble making 154
    - Rehydrates to 175+
    - Predicating future fights at 154 with welterweights inevitably moving up
    - Prefers a catch weight above 154 limit
    - Former lineal WBC champion at 160
    - Is marketed as the face of boxing
    Con's
    - He's still relatively young
    - Golovkin stands as a challenger that'd likely beat him
    - Potentially walking away from big money fights with smaller competition
    - Fallout from a defining loss by Golovkin
    - Relinquishing leverage against team Golovkin by competing against them at 160

    Golovkin's been fighting at 160 for years
    Pro's
    - A clean pallet to continue building on momentum at 168
    - Potentially higher dollar fights with Ward, Degale, Froch, Chavez Jr, Sergey, Artur, and others
    - Time is ticking, he's already old
    - Opposition at 160 seems willing duck him to the very end
    - More competitive fights
    Con's
    - Walking away from a division that has taken this long to conquer
    - Biggest money fight available being Canelo is on the horizon
    - Makes weight relatively easy
    - Is old going into second half of his 30s
    - Matter of principle. Not letting those who duck take over 160 when you walk away
    - Potential fights with Spence or Brook down the line
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    Canelo
    71.43%
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    Golovkin
    23.81%
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    Both
    4.76%
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  • cork
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    #2
    No one is oblige to move up. Canelo gonna move up first because he's young and he probably can't keep draining himself when he gets older while ggg comfortably make 160.

    Ggg should move up though because he's the clear #1 at mw while Canelo have a lot of fights at 154 to prove he's the best there.

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    • Lester Tutor
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      #3
      Alvarez: 2005-2010, 147 Welterweight

      Golovkin: 2006 - present, 160 Middleweight

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      • Anton Chigurh
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        #4
        Why should Ca$hnelo rush to move up? Just to accommodate Little G's desperation for a big money fight?

        Ca$hnelo is 25 years old at 154. He'll probably end his career at 168 or possibly even 160. So 160 will be the halfway point or even the end of Ca$hnelo's career. Little G's **** fans pretty much want Ca$hnelo to speed up the end of his career just to cater to Little G. What sense does that make? I would understand that thinking if Little G wasn't a diva, but that spoiled white privileged ***** Little G wants everything his way. Offer Ca$hnelo a fight at 157 and call his bluff or sit down and drown in mediocrity, .

        Ca$hnelo fights at 155 for a few fights and you ****s act like you've never seen non-title fights fought above the limit. I could understand criticism if he was fighting at 157 or 158, but 155? 1 pound? You would think 155 is closer to 160 than it is to 154 the way Little G's **** fans act.

        And apparently that 1 pound only helped Ca$hnelo and it hindered Lara, Kirkland and Angulo. Ca$hnelo gets stronger with an extra pound but his opponents get weaker.

        Ca$hnelo should've fought Khan at 154 though.

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        • creekrat77
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          #5
          Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
          Alvarez: 2005-2010, 147 Welterweight

          Golovkin: 2006 - present, 160 Middleweight
          Canelo at 19: Welterweight
          Golovkin at 19: light welterweight

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          • Anton Chigurh
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            #6
            Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
            Alvarez: 2005-2010, 147 Welterweight

            Golovkin: 2006 - present, 160 Middleweight
            So I'm sure Little G stans won't have a problem with Ca$hnelo fighting in one division for 10+ years. Looks like Ca$hnelo has 4+ years left at 154, .

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            • Lester Tutor
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              #7
              Originally posted by creekrat77
              Canelo at 19: Welterweight
              Golovkin at 19: light welterweight
              "professional debut" vs other "boxers" and how bouts are sanctioned...

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              • sicko
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                #8
                Canelo because he ***ing re-hydrates into a Light Heavyweight while GGG doen't seem to be having any issues making 160

                To be honest, if GGG wasn't at 160 I think Canelo would've moved up already and would have no problems fighting Danny Jacobs and Billy Joe Saunders. But I do think GGG being their is why he camped out at 155 so that he can claim he is not a middleweight but considering how much he re-hydrates and how **** he looks on the scale trying to make 155 I think all of this is complete BS on his Part as well as GBP

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                • Jewish-Reptile
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                  #9
                  Their are fighters at 154 who can beat Canelo at 160 their is no one who can challenge GGG.

                  I feel Canelo should be competing at 154 and GGG at 168 now.

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                  • Chollo Vista
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                    #10
                    Canelo doesn't have a problem finding fights at 154 or 155.

                    Team GGG always complain about not being able to find fights at 160

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