PBC needs to quit BS'ing and make its own belt now!

[bigdunny1]

Haymon was clearly thinking about doing this in the early stages of PBC. Numerous media reported it. And the first few PBC events BLATANTLY refused to acknowledge the belts being on the line and there were even video's of PBC officials at the fights making the entourage of fighters stop putting the belts in the air. But after a few events PBC abandoned this and now mention titles being on the line but are very vague and at times refuse to mention the organization that the fighter holds the title in. Haymon is toeing the line of not trying to p iss them off because he still needs their rankings and belts. If PBC was doing better then it is I'm sure he would of ditched them and created his own belts by now.

Is this best for boxing? Hell no, more belts and more layers to prevent boxing no thanks. At least now there is a chance that an organization applies pressure on a fighter to either vacate, or go to purse bid to, ect make a fight happen that politically otherwise wouldn't.

[jas]

Yea lets add another belt to boxing

4 isnt enough...

Smh

[bballchump11]

Not yet. I want the PBC to have more of the champions first before they do that. Make it so the PBC belt actually has the best fighter in the weight class. DeGale/Jack could get one. Thurman vs Brook could get the welterweight version.

It wouldn't be hard for him to get 1 at 154 and 126.

[Holystroke3]

Yeah not sure how creating another belt solves the issue of too many belts.

this would only add to the "paper champ" problem. If a top guy in a division is a PBC fighter and holds the PBC belt, the other belts would be held by lesser fighters, and vice versa. It would create "paper champs" in every division (although that may already be the case)

Creating a belt only Haymon fighters can win just creates a bigger divide. Haymons top guys can't just keep fighting each other, they need to fight the top guys outside PBC also.

[Boxfan83]

Creating their own belts isn't going to solve anything right now. What they need to keep doing is making Thurman vs Porter fights. Fights that are significant. Fights that matter and fights that will generate interest and good ratings. Too often the have a good fight that makes sense but there is no follow up. We should be heading into Thurman vs Garcia right now. Spence vs someone relevant and so on. Easier said then done, though, I understand that but my point is they've been dragging their feet more often than not.

Dont get me wrong, Porter vs. Thurman was a great fight and I enjoyed it very much but lets be real, it shouldve been Danny Garcia vs Keith Thurman, Porter is a good fighter but if there were one belt, he would have to rank his way up to that winner. Hvaing all these champs Porter could come off a loss and get another title shot which is BS because lets say Porter beats Garcia, well guess what Thurman already beat Porter, then what?

[Boxfan83]

Yea lets add another belt to boxing

4 isnt enough...

Smh

Itll be adding 1 belt to 1 organization not boxing as a whole. No other fighters but signed PBC fighters fight for their belt and no PBC fighters could fight for the WBC, WBA, IBF, and WBO. They would all die out because the other pormoters stables are so small and eventually fighters in the other promotions will have no choice but to go PBC's route.

[Motorcity Cobra]

It's not even legal. How come when people who aren't particularly fans of Haymon/PBC suggest something it's illegal? UFC told Congress that their belts aren't really belts, they're awards. Belts have to be available for everyone to compete and win and rankings must be issued by an independent sanctioning body.

[Boxfan83]

Yeah not sure how creating another belt solves the issue of too many belts.

this would only add to the "paper champ" problem. If a top guy in a division is a PBC fighter and holds the PBC belt, the other belts would be held by lesser fighters, and vice versa. It would create "paper champs" in every division (although that may already be the case)

Creating a belt only Haymon fighters can win just creates a bigger divide. Haymons top guys can't just keep fighting each other, they need to fight the top guys outside PBC also.

With the size of PBC once you determine 1 champ within their organization, PBC is big enough to have good #1 contenders for days, the other promoters and sanctioning belts do not. Eventually the best outside of PBC will have to sign with PBC or find a new profession.

[Boxfan83]

It's not even legal. How come when people who aren't particularly fans of Haymon/PBC suggest something it's illegal? UFC told Congress that their belts aren't really belts, they're awards. Belts have to be available for everyone to compete and win and rankings must be issued by an independent sanctioning body.

Well then they should make awards too!

[Boxfan83]

Not yet. I want the PBC to have more of the champions first before they do that. Make it so the PBC belt actually has the best fighter in the weight class. DeGale/Jack could get one. Thurman vs Brook could get the welterweight version.

It wouldn't be hard for him to get 1 at 154 and 126.

To risky man, what if Brook beats Thurman, then what? Messing with other promoters could get his fighters L's then a PBC title would mean crap if the better fighter is sitting outside PBC.