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  • KeyboardWarrior
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    #81
    Originally posted by Kigali
    Hopkins is taller than GGG and he found a way to make Oscar's catchweight.

    B side fighters have realize who is in the driver's seat.

    GGG should have taken Canelo's offer because it was his last chance at anything close to a super fighter.

    He's acting like he's 24 instead of 34.
    Canelo lost about 90% of his fanbase being the Crowned National Coward of Mexico. Put your trust in Fishnets DLH who just let Canela take an 8mil dollar hit rather than protect his fighter in that All Star Boxing suit.

    Canelo disrespected generations of a great honored tradition in Mexico and real Mexicans recognize this!!

    [IMG]http://i94.***********.com/albums/l112/JayPeezy725/3EA29894-9DAB-4B15-B08B-24999332B39C.jpg[/IMG]

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      #82
      Originally posted by PolitikDitto
      despite all that bull**** you said, canelo still got the better resume and took more risks in his career than golovkin. when canelo fights little g, he will have done what little g refused to do. move up in weight and fight the best guy there. we talkin about a guy who came up with every excuse in the book to avoid andre ward....but I know....lets not talk about that. this is boxing scene. where ********** get no love. but yes....when the fight happens. canelo will EXPOSE golovkin for the overhyped fraud he is.

      Yeah well if the name of the game was beating up on the likes of Mosley who took him twelve rounds, beating lara, and beating a cotto who he outweighed by god knows how many pounds...then yes he does have the better resume. On the Andre Ward topic, yeah let's go back to 2014 when Ward was offered the fight said no..Came back in 2015 talking about give me 3 tune ups and come to my weight...a weight I might add he still hasn't proven he can make otherwise he would've slid up to 175 with belts and given rocnation one hell of a bargaining chip for a larger fighter fee which he didn't. Considering Andre would still be the best fighter at 168 after 11 years and didn't bother to snag one single belt as a bargaining chip says more than you fkers ever could and I respect Ward but let's be absolutely blunt here...Andre Ward himself had zero genuine desire to make that fight despite the huffing and puffing. The moment you went the clown route with "lil g" you lost all credibility in your argument kiddo..try being an adult and talking like men do.

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        #83
        Originally posted by Kigali
        Hopkins is taller than GGG and he found a way to make Oscar's catchweight.

        B side fighters have realize who is in the driver's seat.

        GGG should have taken Canelo's offer because it was his last chance at anything close to a super fighter.

        He's acting like he's 24 instead of 34.
        Canelos offer? Link?

        Still peddling that Hopkins bull**** after all the lessons you've gotten on this. Lol you're such a sad disgrace

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          #84
          Originally posted by KeyboardWarrior
          Canelo lost about 90% of his fanbase being the Crowned National Coward of Mexico. Put your trust in Fishnets DLH who just let Canela take an 8mil dollar hit rather than protect his fighter in that All Star Boxing suit.

          Canelo disrespected generations of a great honored tradition in Mexico and real Mexicans recognize this!!

          [IMG]http://i94.***********.com/albums/l112/JayPeezy725/3EA29894-9DAB-4B15-B08B-24999332B39C.jpg[/IMG]

          Link?

          Or, a picture of whoever's ass you pulled those figures out of.

          Nah, forget the picture, just STFU

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            #85
            Originally posted by turnedup
            Yeah well if the name of the game was beating up on the likes of Mosley who took him twelve rounds, beating lara, and beating a cotto who he outweighed by god knows how many pounds...then yes he does have the better resume. On the Andre Ward topic, yeah let's go back to 2014 when Ward was offered the fight said no..Came back in 2015 talking about give me 3 tune ups and come to my weight...a weight I might add he still hasn't proven he can make otherwise he would've slid up to 175 with belts and given rocnation one hell of a bargaining chip for a larger fighter fee which he didn't. Considering Andre would still be the best fighter at 168 after 11 years and didn't bother to snag one single belt as a bargaining chip says more than you fkers ever could and I respect Ward but let's be absolutely blunt here...Andre Ward himself had zero genuine desire to make that fight despite the huffing and puffing. The moment you went the clown route with "lil g" you lost all credibility in your argument kiddo..try being an adult and talking like men do.

            Grown men don't like being lied to.

            Grown men hold other grown men responsible for their words/actions.

            the promise: Golovkin Would Fight Ward at 168 and Canelo at 154.....


            the truth: 164 or No Fight.....
            Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas - Abel Sanchez, trainer of WBA/IBO middleweight champion Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin, has made it absolutely clear that he's not going to budge from his position that a potential fight with Andre Ward will only happen if Ward - the recognized champion at super middleweight - is wiling to meet them halfway at a catch-weight of 164-pounds. Golovkin and his team received more than their fair share of heat in recent days, after placing a catch-weight demand on a potential fight with Ward. The reason for the heat, is because Golovkin was willing to fight both Carl Froch and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. at the full super middleweight limit.

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              #86
              Originally posted by HeroBando
              Canelos offer? Link?

              Still peddling that Hopkins bull**** after all the lessons you've gotten on this. Lol you're such a sad disgrace


              "If he wants to fight with me, let him come down to 155 and I'll fight him whatever day he wants.".....
              ~ Canelo
              There is certainly going to be a problem after November 21st. It appears, based on the recent comments by Saul "Canelo" Alvarez, that he doesn't plan to compete in the middleweight division and intends to move back to junior middleweight following the scheduled contest with WBC champion Miguel Cotto. The winner of Cotto-Canelo has been ordered to face WBA/IBO/IBF middleweight champion Gennady "GGG" Golovkin (34-0, 31KOs) next. Golovkin, who holds the WBC's interim title, is the mandatory challenger to the full belt.



              So, considering the fact that lil'G said that he "Would Fight Ward at 168 and Canelo at 154".....
              http://thaboxingvoice.com/golovkin-a...4/15398?var=no..... why didn't lil'G contact his management team IMMEDIATELY and instruct them to make that fight?

              foolio

              If Team Bull**** thought they could beat Canelo at 155, they would simply fight him.


              Grown men hold other grown men responsible for their words/actions.

              just saying.....

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                #87
                Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                Link?

                Or, a picture of whoever's ass you pulled those figures out of.

                Nah, forget the picture, just STFU
                You will be even more bitter when Kovalev destroys your hero
                Better start looking for another set of tater tots to cling to

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                • aboutfkntime
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by KeyboardWarrior
                  You will be even more bitter when Kovalev destroys your hero
                  Better start looking for another set of tater tots to cling to

                  Ward will be fine.

                  And even if Kovalev does destroy him..... Ward will get off the floor and go straight back to work to start earning that rematch, and Kovalev will solidify his rule over the LHW domain and setup that mouth-watering fight with Stevenson.

                  No big deal either way.

                  But, how would that erase the fact that lil'G ducked Ward ?

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Bronx2245
                    How about this? How about GGG's promoter calls Lara or Al Haymon and make Lara an offer? I mean, that is Loeffler's job. Loeffler has talked to Eubank Jr.'s people several times already. Obviously they feel that a fight with Eubank Jr. is a better option. Many will disagree. It is better financially, but it does nothing for GGG's legacy. I say, if no Lara, go up and snatch a title @ 168!
                    It is a promoter's job to guide their fighter to a world fight and a belt if possible. Then once at world level, and depending on ability and age, it is the promoter's job to get the most money as possible for his boxer which includes avoiding pitfalls along the way. It is the boxer's job and/or his trainer to worry about legacy. A Lara fight won't make much money. What capture's a casual's attention? It's when a buzz is created around a fighter. What buzz does Lara have around him?

                    Furthermore, from a purely entertainment point of view what does Lara vs GGG offer? Most think that GGG cuts off the ring and hits harder than Canelo. So if Lara was on his bike against Canelo what do we expect to see when he fights Golovkin? In other words no network is going to be particularly chomping at the bit to line up this fight. And .. .further to that ... what does Lara do in terms of self promotion? And even further to that - lets talk about legacy. Lara is a no-win proposition for Golovkin. If he KOs Lara you will be the first to say that Lara was just a LMW. If Lara somehow contrives to run faster than he has ever run before and get a points win then Golovkin would get slaughtered.

                    Now contrast to Eubank. He (and his dad) are great self publicists. He is not in boring fights although they are not at world level. In some ways he is similar to Golovkin - people doubt his resume. Also he is a genuine large MW with some good offence. Senior will be going nuts at ringside - which will make the fight more entertaining - and the networks know this. Much more money will be made with this fight. It is far easier to sell tickets for this fight. Golovkin loses and there will initially be doubt - was Golovkin not that good or is Eubank much better than we thought - less downside for Golovkin. Golovkin wins and he beat a reasonably good mw contender.

                    Now stop wondering why Lara is overlooked. And he will continue to be until he becomes a compelling opponent. Right now he is just an intriguing opponent for hardcore fans.
                    Last edited by SteveM; 06-25-2016, 07:51 PM.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by SteveM
                      It is a promoter's job to guide their fighter to a world fight and a belt if possible. Then once at world level, and depending on ability and age, it is the promoter's job to get the most money as possible for his boxer which includes avoiding pitfalls along the way. It is the boxer's job and/or his trainer to worry about legacy. A Lara fight won't make much money. What capture's a casual's attention? It's when a buzz is created around a fighter. What buzz does Lara have around him?

                      Furthermore, from a purely entertainment point of view what does Lara vs GGG offer? Most think that GGG cuts off the ring and hits harder than Canelo. So if Lara was on his bike against Canelo what do we expect to see when he fights Golovkin? In other words no network is going to be particularly chomping at the bit to line up this fight. And .. .further to that ... what does Lara do in terms of self promotion? And even further to that - lets talk about legacy. Lara is a no-win proposition for Golovkin. If he KOs Lara you will be the first to say that Lara was just a LMW. If Lara somehow contrives to run faster than he has ever run before and get a points win then Golovkin would get slaughtered.

                      Now contrast to Eubank. He (and his dad) are great self publicists. He is not in boring fights although they are not at world level. In some ways he is similar to Golovkin - people doubt his resume. Also he is a genuine large MW with some good offence. Senior will be going nuts at ringside - which will make the fight more entertaining - and the networks know this. Much more money will be made with this fight. It is far easier to sell tickets for this fight. Golovkin loses and there will initially be doubt - was Golovkin not that good or is Eubank much better than we thought - less downside for Golovkin. Golovkin wins and he beat a reasonably good mw contender.

                      Now stop wondering why Lara is overlooked. And he will continue to be until he becomes a compelling opponent. Right now he is just an intriguing opponent for hardcore fans.

                      So, all of Team Bull****'s excuses are just rubbish, and Golovkin is actually subject to the exact same risk/reward decisions as any other fighter?

                      Because, that is all I have been trying to say.

                      Evaluating risk/reward decisions is why they stated this.....

                      Golovkin Would Fight Ward at 168 and Canelo at 154.....


                      ..... but then, did this.....

                      164 or No Fight.....
                      Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas - Abel Sanchez, trainer of WBA/IBO middleweight champion Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin, has made it absolutely clear that he's not going to budge from his position that a potential fight with Andre Ward will only happen if Ward - the recognized champion at super middleweight - is wiling to meet them halfway at a catch-weight of 164-pounds. Golovkin and his team received more than their fair share of heat in recent days, after placing a catch-weight demand on a potential fight with Ward. The reason for the heat, is because Golovkin was willing to fight both Carl Froch and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. at the full super middleweight limit.


                      160 or no fight.....
                      http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...-not-ounce-160

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