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  • Originally posted by stefl14 View Post
    You're taking the term arm punch too literally. As I say, he's not arm punching like Malignaggi, but he's not the devastating puncher he's made out to be either because he's not getting any where near the same weight behind his shots as someone like Kovalev, for example. He's only knocked out scrubs. Breazeale is worse than most novice amateurs with like 10 bouts technique and athleticism wise ffs.
    Let's be real though, Breazeale's chin is ****ing solid

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    • Originally posted by Dr Kewl Hair View Post
      Let's be real though, Breazeale's chin is ****ing solid
      Yes he had a good chin. But the fact that Joshua is fighting that level of opponent when he holds a strap is embarrassing. The man couldn't run 100m in 20 seconds he's so slow and his technique, as I say, is worse than most amateurs with a few fights.

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      • Originally posted by stefl14 View Post
        You're taking the term arm punch too literally. As I say, he's not arm punching like Malignaggi, but he's not the devastating puncher he's made out to be either because he's not getting any where near the same weight behind his shots as someone like Kovalev, for example. He's only knocked out scrubs. Breazeale is worse than most novice amateurs with like 10 bouts technique and athleticism wise ffs.
        You must think very lowly of the American amateur system to say he's worst than 10 fight novice amatuers. He represented us in the Olympics. Now I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, I'm leaning towards bad.

        I think we just have to wait and see. Joshua isn't putting everything behind some of his some and some do look like armpunches when compared to how guys like Kova, GGG, and Thurman throw their. He's not a one knockout artist that's for sure.

        I think he has good power but the speed and timing is what gets to his opponents. They don't see the punch coming and their system momentarily shuts down after he lands.

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        • Good performance. Next up I'd like to see Anthony Joshua vs. Joseph Parker. I have a feeling, with Sky Sports' recent articles, that they're going to try to hype up a Joshua vs. Jarrell Miller fight in the distant future. Current IBF rankings:

          C: Anthony Joshua
          #1: Joseph Parker
          #2: Kubrat Pulev
          #3: David Haye
          #4: Johan Duhaupas
          #5: Andy Ruiz
          #6: Carlos Takam
          #7: Vyacheslav Glazkov
          #8: Eric Molina
          #9: Dominic Breazale
          #10: Charles Martin
          #11: Dereck Chisora
          #12: David Price
          #13: Hughie Fury
          #14: Jarrell Miller
          #15: Bermane Stiverne

          Plenty of decent fights to be made there.

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          • Originally posted by SilverMiles View Post
            You must think very lowly of the American amateur system to say he's worst than 10 fight novice amatuers. He represented us in the Olympics. Now I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, I'm leaning towards bad.

            I think we just have to wait and see. Joshua isn't putting everything behind some of his some and some do look like armpunches when compared to how guys like Kova, GGG, and Thurman throw their. He's not a one knockout artist that's for sure.

            I think he has good power but the speed and timing is what gets to his opponents. They don't see the punch coming and their system momentarily shuts down after he lands.
            I agree with most of this. He has power, but he's not the one punch knockout artist he's made out to be. That was my only point. Arm puncher was probably a bit of an exaggerated and misleading description I admit.

            As for me describing him as worse than most 10 bout amateurs, I am mainly using non heavy weight boxers in the UK as a reference. I've had nearly 90 amateur fights now and have made the national quarter finals twice and I can state with a lot of confidence that the boxers I often meet are much much more skilled than Breazeale is. I don't know if what I say is an indictment of the American amateur system as a whole or just the heavyweights, but it looks to me that he's just basically got on okay in the American amateur system on account of being an extremely big guy and there being a lack of talent, particularly talent that is 6 foot 7 and 250+. He telegraphs every punch, is absurdly slow and almost laughably easy to hit with a jab. Yes, there are many fighters with 10 fights, particularly in the lower weights, who look much more able than Breazeale.

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            • Originally posted by b0x
              Breazeale ruined my sig prediction LOL.
              No, Joshua did by holding back and extending the fight against someone who was outclassed by the second round.

              Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
              Yea, cute, and he could fly... if he really wanted to.
              Look, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. You likely had a grainy, buffering stream online.

              I watched a crystal clear Showtime app stream of the fight, and Breezy was OUT.ON.HIS.FEET mid second round. You then saw Joshua CLEARLY step back and let him recover.

              If that's not what you saw, you're either blind or the stream was bad.

              Joshua could have stopped him anytime he felt like it. Period.

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              • Originally posted by revelated View Post
                No, Joshua did by holding back and extending the fight against someone who was outclassed by the second round.



                Look, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. You likely had a grainy, buffering stream online.

                I watched a crystal clear Showtime app stream of the fight, and Breezy was OUT.ON.HIS.FEET mid second round. You then saw Joshua CLEARLY step back and let him recover.

                If that's not what you saw, you're either blind or the stream was bad.

                Joshua could have stopped him anytime he felt like it. Period.
                That's not how boxing works... You can't just pretend that a guy could, would, should, if he doesn't actually get it done. If you think Breezy was out on his feet and you refuse to say Anthony lacked the ability to put him away then you can credit poor ring IQ for him not finishing it. I personally don't think Dominic was THAT close to being put away at that moment and AJ knew better than to tire himself out by pounding on a durable guy.

                Pretending that a guy could do something anytime he wants but extends a fight intentionally is one of those really goofy things fans say. When a pro fighter does that (esp a guy like AJ who knows when and how to end a fight) does that, it's called "caution".

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                • Originally posted by stefl14 View Post
                  Yes he had a good chin. But the fact that Joshua is fighting that level of opponent when he holds a strap is embarrassing. The man couldn't run 100m in 20 seconds he's so slow and his technique, as I say, is worse than most amateurs with a few fights.
                  This is why fans have little respect for boxing in general and boxers as champions, as Joshua will fight these bums and I hear Parker and Price are being discussed as potential opponents.

                  However. David Haye is ignored because he apparently doesn't "deserve the money". This is why boxing is a joke, as its all about money!

                  Haye may be nearing the end of his career, but as he now promotes himself and is stuck between a rock a hard place, its being made difficult for him to get back to fighting leading HW fighters.

                  But no one on here, no one who has any interest in boxing, can tell me David Haye doesn't deserve to face Joshua, when we are watching Joshua face these bums, fighters that are prettified of Joshua and his power.

                  We have "boxers" that can't move their head, can't punch, close their eyes and swing wild punches, while their man **** shake. Its ridiculous.
                  Last edited by BlackRevolver; 06-25-2016, 08:37 PM.

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                  • no fighter with an iq in boxing holds back. you go there and either get it done or don't

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                    • Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
                      7rds to finish Brezeale. I'm pretty disappointed. I think he has a hard time the Fury, Wilder, Wlad, Povetkin, and Ortiz.
                      Reckon you're being a bit harsh as he is still young and despite being a gold medalist, doesnt have many rounds under his belt

                      Obviously wasnt up against much but I thought he was reasonably proficient technically and obviously has quick hands

                      Just how heavy they are is subject to debate as he hasnt fought anyone of note and it's nothing more than a paper title

                      If he keeps developing, he'll beat all of those guys but the big question is whether he gets time before really stepping up

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