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  • Jubei
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    #41
    Pretty sure Haymon will have some ways to bribe the WBC if he has any cash left. Wilder the happiest man on earth for not having to fight his first real opponent, now it's back to fighting fat, unmotivated hobos like Arreola.

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    • Nay_Sayer
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      #42
      Originally posted by Æthelstan
      the trace detected previously was very very tiny, probaby still in his body from last year - and too small to have any effect and well below the legal limit of WADA
      Then WHY did his THREE previous tests come back clean?

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      • firstborn
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        #43
        Come on man, they set him up for the easy cash grab. Passed 3 tests then failed the 4th based on an amount so small, it isn't indicative of residuals left over from usage, it's a complete outlier. That's why they haven't suspended him, made a determination, nor taken away his mandatory status. They are not investigating usage, but rather corruption and tampering.
        Or they could have been waiting to see how other sporting organizations dealt with suspensions for other athletes that recently tested positive for use of the substance.

        Funny, many posters blame Wilder for jumping to conclusions before the investigation is completed yet they do the same thing by coming up with their own biased reasoning for the situation.....

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          #44
          Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
          Then WHY did his THREE previous tests come back clean?
          Hey man, common sense has no place here.

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            #45
            Originally posted by saintpat
            His three tests before testing dirty were also clean.

            Then he took the banned substance, failed to flush it all and got caught.

            And how do we know his latest test is clean? Ryabinsky says so? Has he produced the test? Do we know it was tested by VADA and not some Russian lab?

            You are gullible, either by choice or by sheer willpower to avoid the very obvious conclusion that a guy who passes three tests and then fails one has been CAUGHT.
            They said the amount was so small that it wasn't conducive with the typical testing results of someone who used the drug, which stays in the system for months. Since he already passed tests prior to that date, having an amount so small in one's system isn't indicative of using.

            Hymen et al set him up so Wilder would not have to fight him.

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              #46
              Originally posted by firstborn
              Or they could have been waiting to see how other sporting organizations dealt with suspensions for other athletes that recently tested positive for use of the substance.

              Funny, many posters blame Wilder for jumping to conclusions before the investigation is completed yet they do the same thing by coming up with their own biased reasoning for the situation.....
              No, Wilder's team was pushing for closure and payment before their scam caught publicity.

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                #47
                Originally posted by saintpat
                His three tests before testing dirty were also clean.

                Then he took the banned substance, failed to flush it all and got caught
                .

                And how do we know his latest test is clean? Ryabinsky says so? Has he produced the test? Do we know it was tested by VADA and not some Russian lab?

                You are gullible, either by choice or by sheer willpower to avoid the very obvious conclusion that a guy who passes three tests and then fails one has been CAUGHT.
                And there you have it...

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by mathed
                  Hey man, common sense has no place here.
                  Apparently not.

                  Lol...

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                  • firstborn
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                    #49
                    No, Wilder's team was pushing for closure and payment before their scam caught publicity.
                    Probably true, but Wilder is under the belief Povetkin cheated. In that sense I don't believe his camp is trying to scam, Wilder doesn't have the obligation to be objective like the governing organization does.

                    BTW, I don't think Wilder deserves the full purse but he's certainly due financial reimbursement for expenditures associated with training camp, travel, etc.

                    And again, why was Povetkin taking the substance in the first place? It's not something you would find in a normal sports supplement....

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by mathed
                      They said the amount was so small that it wasn't conducive with the typical testing results of someone who used the drug, which stays in the system for months. Since he already passed tests prior to that date, having an amount so small in one's system isn't indicative of using.

                      Hymen et al set him up so Wilder would not have to fight him.
                      "They said." Who is THEY? It wasn't VADA, nor the WBC. If "they" is the Russian promoter, then yeah, that's what "they" said.

                      Meldronium has properties unlike any substance every known to man -- it can be absent from the body (so someone tests clean) and then magically a couple of weeks later ... OMG IT'S THERE!!!!

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