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  • Kigali
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    #31
    Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER
    I can only imagine what Wilder would go through had the roles been reversed.. Y'all don't care about PEDs or a fighter being clean unless they're black or associated with Haymon.. Point blank period. Just look at the Vargas Salido fight. Y'all would be calling for a boycott had Vargas been signed to Haymon and we would get a thousand threads about it... Until Vada or the Wbc release the results everything else is speculation. Sure seems boxingscene is trying to sway the public...how do we know the trace amounts in his test? Vada has not released that information yet. If he passed 3 test prior and failed the last isn't that major signs of micro doping??

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    • Kigali
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      #32
      Originally posted by Shadoww702
      No! But he did fly to Russia, snuck into Pedovetkin house, injected him in the middle of the night while he slept, snuck back out, and then flew home...
      Evidently...because a Russian would never use PEDS.

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      • MaksBox
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        #33
        I am amazed at the complete lack of common sense from some posters. Fortunately the powers that be are not as sop****ric.

        In any case, next week will be interesting as Ryabinski is promising that they will be taking actions and releasing their own findings on this matter.

        I would not be surprised if they counter sue.

        The complete ******ity here is that team Wilder sues BEFORE the regulatory body comes to ANY decisions.

        From World of Boxing.... this is an easy dismissall.

        Wilder did not show up to a match and withdrew BEFORE WBC took any action.

        and before the lemmings come out and say... "Povetkin took PEDs"....

        PROVE IT.

        May 17th he was CLEAN as per VADA tests.

        The only tests that showed anything were trace amounts, 70 times LOWER than what is ALLOWED by WADA.

        If you want the money... Lace them up big boy.

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        • saintpat
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          #34
          Originally posted by Æthelstan
          Povetkin's last test was clean

          the trace detected previously was very very tiny, probably still in his body from last year - and too small to have any effect and well below the legal limit of WADA

          and i don't don't trust VADA anyway, remember Hayman can pay them off like he does the WBC to give a false positive

          Wilder was afraid to fight Povetkin and was wanting an excuse to pull out

          now he's back to his usual BUMS SQUAD
          His three tests before testing dirty were also clean.

          Then he took the banned substance, failed to flush it all and got caught.

          And how do we know his latest test is clean? Ryabinsky says so? Has he produced the test? Do we know it was tested by VADA and not some Russian lab?

          You are gullible, either by choice or by sheer willpower to avoid the very obvious conclusion that a guy who passes three tests and then fails one has been CAUGHT.

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            #35
            Originally posted by ////
            He never tested positive for anything. His meldonium levels were way below the legal limit, even the strict post march limit. Of course he's still the mandatory.

            Internet rumors don't decide this stuff. Only place he was "dirty and suspended" etc was twitter. Everywhere else reported it as a minor testing hiccup.
            Stop spreading false information.

            The mere presence of meldonium in a test, regardless of the amount, constitutes a WADA violation.

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            • saintpat
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              #36
              Originally posted by MaksBox
              I am amazed at the complete lack of common sense from some posters. Fortunately the powers that be are not as sop****ric.

              In any case, next week will be interesting as Ryabinski is promising that they will be taking actions and releasing their own findings on this matter.

              I would not be surprised if they counter sue.

              The complete ******ity here is that team Wilder sues BEFORE the regulatory body comes to ANY decisions.

              From World of Boxing.... this is an easy dismissall.

              Wilder did not show up to a match and withdrew BEFORE WBC took any action.

              and before the lemmings come out and say... "Povetkin took PEDs"....

              PROVE IT.

              May 17th he was CLEAN as per VADA tests.

              The only tests that showed anything were trace amounts, 70 times LOWER than what is ALLOWED by WADA.

              If you want the money... Lace them up big boy.
              You should try to keep up ... Ryabinsky was threatening to sue before Wilder actually did. In fact, you yourself say he'll probably be "taking actions" -- suing -- next week, and there's no reason to believe the WBC will have ruled by then.

              Go check Twitter -- Ryabinski via the World of Boxing (his promotion) Twitter account, (which names Ryabinskii in the tweet) on May 15 at 10:54:30 (time probably local to my account) that the fight is postponed.

              Wilder did not leave by this time, in fact left England a couple days later.

              Oh, and the WBC's OFFICIAL TWITTER ACCOUNT says it "CONFIRMS" -- not announces, confirms -- on May 15 at 11:17:06 that the fight is postponed.

              So it was Ryabinski who called the fight off. It was more than 20 minutes later that the WBC "confirmed" that he had done so.

              He called off the fight. He'll lose the lawsuit.

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              • Æthelstan
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                #37
                Originally posted by saintpat
                His three tests before testing dirty were also clean.
                yes.. because he's not using

                Originally posted by saintpat
                Then he took the banned substance, failed to flush it all and got caught.
                no... a tiny trace showed up

                Originally posted by saintpat
                And how do we know his latest test is clean? Ryabinsky says so? Has he produced the test? Do we know it was tested by VADA and not some Russian lab?
                check the boxingscene news article about it...

                it was VADA

                Originally posted by saintpat
                You are gullible, either by choice or by sheer willpower to avoid the very obvious conclusion that a guy who passes three tests and then fails one has been CAUGHT.
                no... if he was using it to improve his blood flow, more than a microgram would have shown up for sure, not just 7/100 of a microgram

                a microgram is just a millionth of a gram

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                • mathed
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Kigali
                  Wilder was set to fight Povetkin...dummy.

                  Did Haymon pay that trashy Russian to cheat.??
                  Come on man, they set him up for the easy cash grab. Passed 3 tests then failed the 4th based on an amount so small, it isn't indicative of residuals left over from usage, it's a complete outlier. That's why they haven't suspended him, made a determination, nor taken away his mandatory status. They are not investigating usage, but rather corruption and tampering.

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                  • stellen
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                    #39
                    War povetkin! Anything to keep chicken man wilder sh i t ing himself. LOL the thought of fighting any man who actually fights back keeps this coward up all night.

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                    • Shadoww702
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by saintpat
                      His three tests before testing dirty were also clean.

                      Then he took the banned substance, failed to flush it all and got caught.

                      And how do we know his latest test is clean? Ryabinsky says so? Has he produced the test? Do we know it was tested by VADA and not some Russian lab?

                      You are gullible, either by choice or by sheer willpower to avoid the very obvious conclusion that a guy who passes three tests and then fails one has been CAUGHT.
                      EXACTLY!!! He ***ED up on the timing. Probably was only off by a few hours or a day at most... They should be more pissed at their strength and conditioning coach more than anything.

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