Did Floyd Prove Rope'a'Dope benefits lower weights too?

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  • Lester Tutor
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    #31
    Originally posted by SouthPawHitman
    Well the roids GGG,Ward,and Canelo are on are good roids no doubt but they arent as good as the roids Manny and TBE were on. Their levels to everything,steroids included.
    Ah ok then, and that's why resumes and undefeated for 19 years supersedes all of them. I guess roids only benefits the best of the best.

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    • SouthPawHitman
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      #32
      Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
      Ah ok then, and that's why resumes and undefeated for 19 years supersedes all of them. I guess roids only benefits the best of the best.
      No. TBE wasn't on the best steroids for his entire 19 year career. As your career progresses you get better and better roids. After the Gatti fight is when TBE really stepped up his steroid game.

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        #33
        Also Green K Sent OP for not being a douche and willing to ask questions and learn.

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          #34
          Originally posted by SouthPawHitman
          Also Green K Sent OP for not being a douche and willing to ask questions and learn.
          You said the "best roids.." lol

          As long as Victor Conte said it himself that he had no doubt Pac was roiding in the Philippines (which is another way of saying or not disclosing roiding in the USA to protect a network) then it's clear and present what Pac had to do after being KO'd twice earlier in his career...

          That is.. if you're making comparisons with Floyd fighting Gatti... who was nowhere near the level of Floyd by any means.

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            #35
            Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
            You said the "best roids.." lol

            As long as Victor Conte said it himself that he had no doubt Pac was roiding in the Philippines (which is another way of saying or not disclosing roiding in the USA to protect a network) then it's clear and present what Pac had to do after being KO'd twice earlier in his career...

            That is.. if you're making comparisons with Floyd fighting Gatti... who was nowhere near the level of Floyd by any means.
            I'm talking about New York and New Jersey from 2004-2005

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              #36
              Tim Bradley ATG rope'a'dope

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                #37
                Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
                So in other words Floyd wanted to hire Ariza so late in his game to draw particular attention and knew of the benefits or circumstances that Ariza had given Pacquiao?

                Seems like a win win situation for Floyd since the date he had hired Ariza during his career?

                Haymon would've stopped Floyd hiring Ariza for bad press if those theories hold. Seemed pretty obvious Floyd hired Ariza to stress out Top Rank, Pac, and Roach as a general statement, not because of "nutrition."
                SugarKaineHook is going all out defending Alex Ariza shakes. This is funny!

                Oh, so hiring Ariza was "good press?" More comedy!


                How about "Ariza consulted with Memo Heredia on Floyd to get more power". What's your comedic response on that?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by ADP02
                  SugarKaineHook is going all out defending Alex Ariza shakes. This is funny!
                  #Pacquiao #irony #shakes #RoachTraining #exposing ##48

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
                    #Pacquiao #irony #shakes #RoachTraining #exposing ##48
                    #SugarKaineHook #defends #Alex Ariza # Memo Heredia #admitted cheat #Floyd Maywether #IV scandal #TUE #retroactive #Irony


                    Got it!

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by New England
                      ali was on the ropes primarily because his legs had slowed down. you have to remember that ali had a hall of fame career from '62 - '67, the liston fight through the layoff after zora foley.


                      floyd was on the ropes against maidana for similar reasons. then he *cough* looked young and fresh in the rematch after hooking up with alex ariza


                      there's really no benefit to being on the ropes habitually. yes you can set traps, but you're better off not lingering there. it's typically a place where older fighters feel comfortable, because they can be tricky and evasive without using their old legs and draining their tanks.


                      floyd relaly only ended up on the ropes for extended periods of time when he was eithe rbeing held, or when he was older. jesus chavez kept him on the ropes in spots, but chavez went for broke and punched himself out completely within the first half of the fight.
                      I know it's the second time I've brought this to your attention but you need to rewatch the Maidana rematch again because Mayweather did not look good at all. Yes he could move pretty freely on his feet but he couldn't transition into an offense or work the proper angles. He utilized more holding than he's ever had to. It's crazy people think he looked better than the first fight, even Mayweather himself said he was a lot sharper in the first fight which he was.

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