Comments Thread For: Breazeale: I'd Beat Tyson Fury With One Hand Behind My Back!

[VatoMulatto]

On paper this dude has no chance and will most likely get knocked out inside three rounds. I don't think he believes half of the things that comes out of his mouth but Breazeale's smacktalk makes this fight more interesting.

[hugh grant]

Lol being champ don't earn u any respect does it..
But beat josh with 2 hands first that's hard enough

[Greed.]

He wouldn't even beat Hughie Fury

[BillyBoxing]

Well this is wrong. I know the sport and I know AJ isn't very fast. He's actually quite slow and clumsy. He does, however, have awesome power. The footwork and upper body movement is light-years away from being elite. I would put money on AJ being slower than Wilder, Fury (who is deceptively quick), and Parker just to name a few. He looked terribly slow in parts against Dillian Whyte and was hitting air a lot until he reset and boxed smart. Don't believe the hype folks. AJ is a powerhouse with good boxing basics but to say no HW has a great combination of speed, power and skills is just rubbish. He will KO Breazeale because of his power and Breazeale's limited movement. He is a level above Breazeale but that level is called good, not great. Any boxer with any kind of movement above average will ruin AJ, dance rings around him and gas him out. Fury has great movement and footwork and would box rings around AJ and jab him all night long. It would be clinical. AJs only chance against the best heavyweights is his power, because he doesn't compare to them in any other field.

I just agree somehow on Parker, Haye is faster too.

I talked about the combination power/speed, and I maintain he does have the best in the HW division, just IMO.

Wilder telegraphes his punches, Joshua is quicker.

Joshua obviously lands the crisper shots out of all the guys you mentionned.

When Fury potshots, he's quick but doesn't put power in it.

AJ is the best athlete, this guy is really impressive, he just need more experience, he has IMO a very good timing wich is a big quality in this division.

[BillyBoxing]

I see what you're saying, but it's easy to land crisp shots when you fight tin-cans. I can't see him landing many if any on Tyson Fury. AJ's feet are literally cemented to the floor, that's why he hits so hard. I don't see the speed. In none of his fights does he look remotely quick apart from a combo he did on Kevin Johnson who wasn't throwing back. But you get rare moments. For me Wilder has a better combination of Power and Speed, Haye too before he came back 2 stone heavier. Wlad also hits hard and fast. Fury hits hard and fast, you could be forgiven for thinking he doesn't, because he flicks out back-handers (LOL), but check out his KO percent. I would say AJ is possibly the heaviest hitter in the division, but doesn't have the best speed-power combo, as he has very average speed. You also included skills in the speed,power combination. I don't see those either. I'm not stubborn or a fanboy though so if you can link me to a video of a fight where AJ looks very skilled or very quick then I may be open to change my views on him.

In the fight against Dillian Whyte he got hit to the body in the last minute or so of the second round and he did the slowest reaction I've seen in a heavyweight fight in a long time. He kind of looped his whole body and head around but his feet didn't even move. Was very strange.


HOWEVER, I do agree he has good timing, when he boxes smart. Which is very important.


Edit, round 2 of the Dillian Whyte fight, with 45 seconds left. The body shot. Check out the movement skills/speed. I know he was hurt, but a good heavyweight would have got him out of there when he's moving like that.

Joshua still is a work in progress.

He's only 16 fights, that's not a lot, not like if he had 400 amateur fights like a Loma.

Whyte probably was his first "war" and he handled it somehow well.
He got hurt tough.

I think he showed a lot of calmness and champion mentality in his shot vs Martin.
We know now Martin was not threat, but AJ revealed it to us.
Martin could punch.

Talking about thin cans and Wilder...

AJ is a better boxer, much more accurate with better timing, I only see AJ being a sort of dominant big man like Lennox or Wlad were.

Wilder lacks too much of fundamental skills, the guy is painfull to watch, because how his power is tremendous and hurting the contenders he's fighting but also how his skills are poor.

Maybe speed/power Wilder is above, as Wilder's power is also awesome, and dude has really long arms wich give him a lot of leverage in his punches.

At least Joshua has a jab.

Fury is gifted for such a big man, but he doesn't have the mentality and shape to rule a division IMO.
There is something fishy about Fury.

Don't know about a precise video but I watch a lot of HW boxing and it's how I feel about AJ and the others.

Again, I might be wrong, it's all specuations, AJ still needs to fight a live dog.

[BillyBoxing]

Yep a work in progress I agree. That's why I don't agree he has the best combination of speed/power/skills of any current heavyweight. And being the pessimist I am of AJ I don't see it happening either. I've never seen a heavyweight suddenly or gradually develop great upper body movement or great footwork. They either have it or they don't.

I had a bet on for fury to beat wlad and I will put one on for him to do it again. At best we can neutrally look at AJ and say he is a good boxer that could be great with the right tools, but right now he's a work in progress.

Sorry if I sound a bit negative of him, but watching boxing over the years I've seen many so called monsters step up and get exposed. And I get annoyed when my mates who never watch boxing start telling me why AJ is the best ever lol. He's good. Wilder is good. But as the competition level goes up they start to look all the more human.

Mike Tyson was a fast heavyweight. AJ is not.
Ali had great footwork, AJ does not.

None of these fighters suddenly developed those skills, they started with these attributes and honed their craft. With his size and body type, and style, AJ won't get any faster or mobile.

AJ does however, have the power to punch through the guard and the timing to make things interesting.

People like to say that if they fought, AJ would eventually land on Fury, and it would be over. What they don't think about is that whilst he is waiting for that opportunity, he would be missing and getting tired. And also eating shots because he doesn't move well and fury has a great jab and a long reach. if he did get on the inside to unload a shot, Tyson is the most awkward heavyweight on the inside and he tangles people up like an octopus. Wlad is the 2nd best at this.

Good points, I understand what you mean.

But regarding Tyson and Ali.

Tyson is as tall as GGG wich allowed him to move well and fast his upper body, and Ali was somehow a cruiserweight,
talking about AJ who is I think 6'6 and 245 pounds we would need to compare him to Wlad, (Bowe) and Lennox.

Did Wlad has great upper body movement and footwork, def not.

Lennox? Good but not great.

My point is that's super heavyweight boxing we're talking about, not the welterweights, calmess, timing, brain and power plays a lot in a mamoths fight.

Like it happened to Lennox and Wlad, Joshua will probably get KTFO in his career, same for Wilder, same for Fury.

I think Joshua is the one who has the will, brain, talent and coolness to rule that division.

Joshua has little experience, yet he managed to get a gold medal and a IBF title with few years of boxing.

Maybe Josh shoulda lost to Camarelle in London,
but damn it,
Camarelle is one of the greastest "amateur HW" (gold medalist in Beijing, 2 times Wolrd Champ), was already there fighting Povetkin for the euro final in 2002, he had a lot more experience than Joshua, yet Joshua made it at least competitive, Joshua is smart and a REAL ATHLETE, that's why I trust him.

[alexguiness]

I just agree somehow on Parker, Haye is faster too.

I talked about the combination power/speed, and I maintain he does have the best in the HW division, just IMO.

Wilder telegraphes his punches, Joshua is quicker.

Joshua obviously lands the crisper shots out of all the guys you mentionned.

When Fury potshots, he's quick but doesn't put power in it.

AJ is the best athlete, this guy is really impressive, he just need more experience, he has IMO a very good timing wich is a big quality in this division.

Haye is faster and has better timing than Joshua.

Fury has better footwork and ring craft than Joshua.

You are correct about Joshua being the superior athlete because that is basically all he is, he is a manufactured boxer who looks great against low level opposition.

He is a more controlled, better balanced version of Wilder.