Comments Thread For: Wilder-Povetkin Decision Coming Very Soon, Says WBC Prez

Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Ake-Dawg
    Undisputed Champion
    Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
    • Jun 2016
    • 5510
    • 127
    • 80
    • 76,361

    #81
    I really wish folks would understand these three things.

    1. The WBC called the fight off, not Wilder. You can't be called a duck if a fight you signed a contract for gets called off by the boxing organization so they can determine if your opponent is on performance enhancers.

    2. The mere presence of meldonium in a fighters system after March 1st is considered a red flag trigger for PED use by VADA. The 1 microgram limit only applies prior to March 1st. Povetkin likely has to prove that the testing was flawed such that his positive test was a false positive. It very well may happen, but the low level in his system could be attributed to micro dosing.

    3. The protocol issue surrounding Mayweather and the positive test of Povetkin are in no way related. The actions that Mayweather took were never called into question, only the notification and request protocol. Any conclusion of PED use is no more than presumptuous innuendo. Doesn't mean Mayweather has never used PEDS, just means there is no smoking gun like with Povetkin. Let's be clear, Povetkin has admitted to using a now known PED, it's just wasn't a punishable offense to use it up until now.

    Comment

    • Y0@NN
      Undisputed Champion
      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
      • Apr 2014
      • 1383
      • 71
      • 257
      • 8,480

      #82
      I hope Wilder's team doesn't try to bypass Povetkin again because this gentleman below will tear a lot of people a new arsehole

      Comment

      • Dr Rumack
        I Also Cook
        Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
        • Oct 2012
        • 11870
        • 683
        • 303
        • 22,101

        #83
        Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
        I really wish folks would understand these three things.

        1. The WBC called the fight off, not Wilder. You can't be called a duck if a fight you signed a contract for gets called off by the boxing organization so they can determine if your opponent is on performance enhancers.
        The WBC postponed the fight. They explicitly said that in their statement. Did you even read it?

        Wilder's team said the fight was off, not the WBC.

        Comment

        • ////
          ////
          Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
          • Sep 2014
          • 14948
          • 952
          • 671
          • 111,577

          #84
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
          Povetkin should face some kind of suspension.
          They can't suspend him without inventing their own new rules. Under WADA his levels are clean. According to the WBC the fight is only postponed (for now).

          Deontay Wilder is not a drug testing agency or a sanctioning body. Stop taking things he said as though they're automatically transcribed into the WBC, VADA, WADA rules.
          Last edited by ////; 06-01-2016, 06:12 PM.

          Comment

          • ShoulderRoll
            Join The Great Resist
            Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
            • Oct 2009
            • 55875
            • 10,014
            • 5,013
            • 763,445

            #85
            Originally posted by Freedom2016
            Okay If that's the "bottle line" Floyd Mayweather done something illegal so therefore his win over Pacquiao should be rescinded and the win over Berto shouldn't count as well because as things go If someone is using a PED masking trick chances are they likely are masking PEDs.
            Yes, you caught a grammar mistake on my part . Bravo. Auto correct messes things up sometimes especially if you're in a rush.

            This thread isn't about Floyd, though. Try to stay on topic.

            Comment

            • ShoulderRoll
              Join The Great Resist
              Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
              • Oct 2009
              • 55875
              • 10,014
              • 5,013
              • 763,445

              #86
              Originally posted by ////
              They can't suspend him without inventing their own new rules. Under WADA his levels are clean.
              Prior to March 1? Or after that date which is when Povetkin's piss was found to be dirty?

              Comment

              • ////
                ////
                Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                • Sep 2014
                • 14948
                • 952
                • 671
                • 111,577

                #87
                Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
                I really wish folks would understand these three things.

                1. The WBC called the fight off, not Wilder. You can't be called a duck if a fight you signed a contract for gets called off by the boxing organization so they can determine if your opponent is on performance enhancers.

                2. The mere presence of meldonium in a fighters system after March 1st is considered a red flag trigger for PED use by VADA. The 1 microgram limit only applies prior to March 1st. Povetkin likely has to prove that the testing was flawed such that his positive test was a false positive. It very well may happen, but the low level in his system could be attributed to micro dosing.

                3. The protocol issue surrounding Mayweather and the positive test of Povetkin are in no way related. The actions that Mayweather took were never called into question, only the notification and request protocol. Any conclusion of PED use is no more than presumptuous innuendo. Doesn't mean Mayweather has never used PEDS, just means there is no smoking gun like with Povetkin. Let's be clear, Povetkin has admitted to using a now known PED, it's just wasn't a punishable offense to use it up until now.
                Every part of your post is incorrect. You should really read things from the original sources instead of repeating other boxingscene posts.

                The WBC postponed the fight to investigate but explicitly said it's not cancelled/off until further decisions are made.

                Some levels of meldonium are still exempt after March 1st. If Povetkin's levels are 70 nanograms then under WADA he is clean -- never tested dirty.

                Really you guys don't know how obvious it is you're just repeating other NSB posts...

                Comment

                • ////
                  ////
                  Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 14948
                  • 952
                  • 671
                  • 111,577

                  #88
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                  Prior to March 1? Or after that date which is when Povetkin's piss was found to be dirty?
                  Stop repeating **** from NSB and go look it up

                  Before March 1st: 1 and 15 millilitres

                  After March 1st: 1

                  Povetkin's alleged detection is wayyyyy below both of those, 0.07~, barely detectable trace amounts with no physiological effect

                  He's clean according to WADA so some major new information would have to be revealed for Wilder to get out of the fight. They'd have to come back and say the B-sample was 100 millilitres and part of a PED ****tail or something.
                  Last edited by ////; 06-01-2016, 06:22 PM.

                  Comment

                  • ShoulderRoll
                    Join The Great Resist
                    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 55875
                    • 10,014
                    • 5,013
                    • 763,445

                    #89
                    Originally posted by ////
                    Stop repeating **** from NSB and go look it up

                    Before March 1st: 1 and 15 millilitres

                    After March 1st: 1

                    Povetkin's alleged detection is wayyyyy below both of those, 0.07~, barely detectable trace amounts with no physiological effect

                    He's clean according to WADA so some major new information would have to be revealed for Wilder to get out of the fight. They'd have to come back and say the B-sample was 100 millilitres and part of a PED ****tail or something.
                    I wasn't repeating anything. I was asking a question.

                    Here's another question: The 0.07 number was given by Ryabinksy. Has that been corroborated by either VADA or the WBC?

                    And that was for Povetkin's A sample. Since then his B sample also tested positive, do we know what the amount of meldonium was for that one?

                    Comment

                    • MisterPullman
                      Psalm 23:1
                      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                      • Nov 2015
                      • 3558
                      • 325
                      • 399
                      • 2,514

                      #90
                      Originally posted by bigjavi973
                      Fact remains PEDvetkin was taking extra suppliments and then he started ko'ing guys left and right when he couldn't even stop cruiserweight marco huck.

                      "oh it wasn't illegal at the time tho"

                      I dont give a **** ass. He didn't have no damn heart condition.
                      You're telling me that other athletes are not on something? There are countless amount of PEDS that are LEGAL. Almost all of them are on something, ffs

                      Guarantee Wilder is too, and I'm a fan.

                      I hope this fight happens

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP