Comments Thread For: Roach: I'd Still Like Mayweather To Face a 'Healthy' Manny Pacquiao

[Spoon23]

Roach says: @ 16:10, '90% of the people told me Manny got robbed.'

[- Ram Raid -]

Is health a lack of mingery or the vitality gained from Ariza shakes?

[GoldenGloveLove]

I'd like Pacquiao to face a healthy Mayweather. #onlyhisopponentsgetinjured #onlyhisopponentsage

[WesternChamp]

Roach: i still want floyd to fight a healthy manny.

floyd fans: what a lying piece of shit! roach knows damm well pac wasnt injured.

Roach: i think floyd is the best of this era.

floyd fans: see, its true! floyd is the best of this era, even roach said so!

make up ya minds faggots!

[The Big Dunn]

Roach just wants another huge check, who can blame him.

[Sledgeweather17]

How do they ignore Freddie's statement? Do they remember Arum's comments: "Scared of needles," "His cuts are not healed," "We need an outdoor stadium built"

January 7, 2012:
Dan Rafael

Friday's turn of events made that pretty clear. There have been previous negotiations and lots of rhetoric. At various times throughout this whole ordeal, I believe both sides have been to blame.

But at this moment, the fault of a fight not being made falls squarely on the shoulders of Top Rank promoter Bob Arum, who, in my view, simply doesn't want to make the match at a moment when there seems to be no legitimate impediment.

Arum doesn't want to match his cash cow, Pacquiao, with somebody he doesn't control, and he has no control over Mayweather. He once did, but that was years ago, before their nasty breakup.

Arum is also a smart boxing guy, as are his matchmakers, Brad "Abdul" Goodman and Bruce Trampler. They know Pacquiao would be the underdog, especially given how he looked in his controversial majority decision win in November against Juan Manuel Marquez, whom Mayweather thoroughly dominated when they fought in September 2009. Arum and his people know there is a strong possibility Pacquiao will lose if he ever fights Mayweather...

It was just this week that Arum said he would go to the Philippines to meet with Pacquiao and present him with the names of four possible opponents for May or June: Miguel Cotto, Marquez, Lamont Peterson and Timothy Bradley Jr.

Arum figured Mayweather would be in jail and off the table. Now that Mayweather is available and seemingly would like to make the match, Arum suddenly isn't interested.

He used the lame excuse of the cut Pacquiao suffered against Marquez, saying he might not be ready for May. (I've never heard of a cut taking more than six months to heal.) However, earlier this week, when Arum thought Mayweather would be on ice behind bars, he said there was a good possibility Pacquiao would fight in May.

Moments after Mayweather was granted the continuance, Arum changed his tune.

"We're fighting in June, one of the four guys," Arum told me over the phone.

I asked him, now that Mayweather was available, would he at least be part of the conversation when Arum meets with Pacquiao next week?

A perturbed Arum's response was, "Absolutely not. Nope..."

Then Schaefer ripped into Arum as the impediment to making a fight he claims Mayweather and Golden Boy have wanted all along.

"I don't think Manny Pacquiao wants to be on that list of names for Mayweather, or Bob doesn't want him to be on the list," Schaefer said. "I am sick and tired of Arum's bulls---. First Bob said June is when Pacquiao would fight, when Floyd was going to be on May 5. Then, when it looked like Floyd wouldn't be available in May, he said Pacquiao would be available in May. Now, since they know Mayweather is going to fight in May, suddenly Pacquiao is going to fight in June.

"I'm tired of all those people saying it is Mayweather who doesn't want the fight. Arum knows who to call. He can pick up the phone and call me and say, 'Let's get a fight done with Pacquiao.' The rest of it is bulls---. The rest can go drink the Arum and Top Rank Kool-Aid. It is Arum who doesn't want the fight to happen, end of story."

I agree with Schaefer.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...yweather-fight

I always knew it was so, usually the guy who runs to the media first, the one who barks the loudest, is usually the one who has something to hide. Plus there are a lot of things that didn't add up with their story.

However, this post is the most clear and concise description of the events leading up to may-pac. I'm sure you're right in that there may be things both sides said and did that caused the fight to be delayed, but overall I believe Pac's side were the most guilty. They seemed to have so many excuses and road blocks everytime the fight was brought up.

[fabie]

What I am appalled with is that the BOXING has become a debate and mythical issue by rationale only. No longer it is a sport wherein competition reigned king - but now it is SUCH AND SUCH IS THE BEST.

It used to be when the champion is being challenged by the no.1 and no.2 contenders at the very least or by other champions from other boxing leagues or organizations.

Now it is up to WHO CAN GIVE ME THE MOST MONEY.

Really sad. Now it is a crime when a boxer wants to challenge the champion in the light of competition. Where is that nowadays?

[boxingfan4life]

You'd have to create a time machine to go back to 2009-2011, otherwise, no point. Floyd waited until Pacquiao went thru wars and got washed up like the coward that he is.

Just like every pac lover and Floyd hater, you completely forgot the three times Floyd tried to make the fight years ago and was denied. First time Floyd wanted blood test and Pac said no because of a phobia of needles, yet he has tattoos. Second, Floyd offered him 40 mil but no pay per view revenue so of course pac turned it down. Third time Bob Arum got involved and came up with that lame stadium excuse and that it wouldn't be complete until the day before Floyd went to jail. All this started back in 2009. Even Freddie Roach said that he regret turning down the Floyd fight back then. So your statement of Floyd waiting until Pac was washed up is false. He tried to make the fight years ago and was turned down. Plus Floyd is older then Pac so by the time they fought he was past his prime as well. You are definitely a casual fan with little knowledge of this sport. Get off the forum please. This is for real boxing fans.

[Oldschool5]

Sad we're still debating this! Unreal.

[boxingfan4life]

Even a healthy Pac will lose to Floyd. Floyd is simply too skillful for him. If the fight happens, Pac will lose and haters will use the same running or Bayless excuse as the reason for Floyd winning. Also if the fight was a disappointment and didn't live up to the hype, why would the world want to see it again. It will play out the exact same way. Wait a minute I'm wrong, a healthy pac would land 22% of his total punches this time around.