Comments Thread For: Roach: I'd Still Like Mayweather To Face a 'Healthy' Manny Pacquiao

[travestyny]

We have gone over this already, right. You went from Manny was doing all these crazy things early on and you said that it was impossible given his injury and recovery period. Now you are saying he did none of that crazy stuff. No more flag waving, no more Olympic style swimming. Just SELF REHAB where he looked AMAZING, scuba diving, some chess and then when he felt better, some basketball, badminton and so on. SO we are all good then. GREAT! It took time but you finally got it!


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This is great! Now even you too can rehab from full thickness rotator cuff surgery with a heavy dose of scuba diving, basketball, chess, and badminton!!!! What a discovery. Thanks, Pac. Thanks, PacRoach ADPO2!!!!

Hahahahahahaha. Woooo! Now I've heard it all.

You have made the hall of shame. Cong****!

[ADP02]

You really need to learn how to follow time lines. Tell me, what statement did he make at the end of 3 months? That's when he began playing basketball, right.

When are you going to stop crying? This is sad, bro.

This is great! Now even you too can rehab from full thickness rotator cuff surgery with a heavy dose of scuba diving, basketball, chess, and badminton!!!! What a discovery. Thanks, Pac. Thanks, PacRoach ADPO2!!!!

Hahahahahahaha. Woooo! Now I've heard it all.

You have made the hall of shame. Cong****!

You said that you had all FACTS/EVIDENCE but you came back with NOTHING.

You didn't realize it but after debunking the flag waving and that there was no Olympic style swimming going on, the last nail hit the coffin when you pointed this out:


The doctor was AMAZED at Manny's SELF REHAB .


You were fixated on the word AMAZED instead of realizing that Manny was doing SELF REHAB.







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[travestyny]

You said that you had all FACTS/EVIDENCE but you came back with NOTHING.

You didn't realize it but after debunking the flag waving and that there was no Olympic style swimming going on, the last nail hit the coffin when you pointed this out:


The doctor was AMAZED at Manny's SELF REHAB .


You were fixated on the word AMAZED instead of realizing that Manny was doing SELF REHAB.
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I'm amazed, too! Self rehab of badminton, basketball, scuba diving...and don't forget chess!

Who said rehab for this surgery is long and hard? Oh, just about everyone who has gone through it. But no matter, let's have some fun! Shyt, I hope I tear my shoulder to bits! I could use a nice breezy rehabilitation vacation!

hahahahahaha. You clown. This is too funny. Tell us more!

(actually, you should just stop. You've embarrassed yourself enough. It's over.)

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I'm amazed, too! Self rehab of badminton, basketball, scuba diving...and don't forget chess!

Who said rehab for this surgery is long and hard? Oh, just about everyone who has gone through it. But no matter, let's have some fun! Shyt, I hope I tear my shoulder to bits! I could use a nice breezy rehabilitation vacation!

hahahahahaha. You clown. This is too funny. Tell us more!

(actually, you should just stop. You've embarrassed yourself enough. It's over.)

"Manny's doctor was AMAZED at Manny's SELF-REHAB."

"and was kind of surprised with the rehab he did himself and it worked very well." - Roach

"Manny's home built in 2012

But for sports nuts, the best part of the house should be the covered basketball court with its wooden flooring that is marked with Manny’s now iconic MP logo and the logo of Pacquiao's .....

The court also has sports equipment for volleyball, badminton, tennis, cardio training, boxing ......."

"Asked whether he had difficulty in his first day of training (Bradley fight), the Filipino boxing phenom said he did not because he has been playing basketball after his shoulder surgery was healed.

Even while he has been inactive in the ring, Pacquiao (57-6-2-38 K.O) is playing basketball almost every night in his gym inside his sprawling Pacman mansion-2 at Barangay (Village) City Heights. "


Seems like you are looking at yourself again. You have NOTHING and still keep on going like you have something. That is what's funny.




You and a few other Floyd fans must be the only ones struggling with the thought of a pro boxer/basketball player doing SELF REHAB.

[travestyny]

"Manny's doctor was AMAZED at Manny's SELF-REHAB."

"and was kind of surprised with the rehab he did himself and it worked very well." - Roach

"Manny's home built in 2012

But for sports nuts, the best part of the house should be the covered basketball court with its wooden flooring that is marked with Manny’s now iconic MP logo and the logo of Pacquiao's .....

The court also has sports equipment for volleyball, badminton, tennis, cardio training, boxing ......."

"Asked whether he had difficulty in his first day of training (Bradley fight), the Filipino boxing phenom said he did not because he has been playing basketball after his shoulder surgery was healed.

Even while he has been inactive in the ring, Pacquiao (57-6-2-38 K.O) is playing basketball almost every night in his gym inside his sprawling Pacman mansion-2 at Barangay (Village) City Heights. "


Seems like you are looking at yourself again. You have NOTHING and still keep on going like you have something. That is what's funny.




You and a few other Floyd fans must be the only ones struggling with the thought of a pro boxer/basketball player doing SELF REHAB.

Lol. Are you always this ****** or do you just pretend to be when it comes to your lord and savior?

1. LMFAO. Was that Freddie Roach statement about the SELF-REHAB before or after he made the statement saying he talked to the doctor that was doing the rehab???? hahahahhahaha. Ooops! Are you tired of embarrassing yourself yet?

2. Why is what he did after his shoulder was healed relevant? I thought the issue was rehab.

3. The fact that you are trying to argue that his rehab consisted of badminton, basketball, scuba diving, and playing chess is beyond idiotic. Seriously...far beyond idiotic.

4. When are you going to stop embarrassing yourself and give up? Showing pictures of him training for a fight and talking about his house is irrelevant, you fvking dolt. MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE!!!

[ADP02]

Lol. Are you always this ****** or do you just pretend to be when it comes to your lord and savior?

1. LMFAO. Was that Freddie Roach statement about the SELF-REHAB before or after he made the statement saying he talked to the doctor that was doing the rehab???? hahahahhahaha. Ooops! Are you tired of embarrassing yourself yet?

2. Why is what he did after his shoulder was healed relevant? I thought the issue was rehab.

3. The fact that you are trying to argue that his rehab consisted of badminton, basketball, scuba diving, and playing chess is beyond idiotic. Seriously...far beyond idiotic.

4. When are you going to stop embarrassing yourself and give up? Showing pictures of him training for a fight and talking about his house is irrelevant, you fvking dolt. MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE!!!

Just checking in if you finally found something called evidence but you still have nothing.

I pointed out studies, people, doctors and so on who concurred that they were healed much earlier than anticipated. Some said that their injured healed shoulder was as strong as their good shoulder. Tests concurred.

YOU HAVE NOTHING yet you pretend you do.

Manny felt good at that point in time. Good enough to say that he felt that he was healed but as has been pointed out before, that does not mean that a doctor would concur. Later Manny was examined at it was 80-90% healed.

Easy for all the rest of us to understand this except for you and a few others. Its too bad and so sad! You gotta bring in "OLD" Travestyny back. He would have a field day with your nonsense!!!

Here are other lines that were stated in articles but these ones do not go with your agenda so you avoid them. Manny was not moving his arms as freely as you thought right after surgery and many weeks later. Once he was able to, he felt it was because it was healed. :

"Pacquiao no longer had a sling to support his shoulder but stressed that his movement was still limited. The only sport he is able to do now is chess"

"Although the sling has long been removed, Pacquiao said he has been advised to be extra-cautious with his moves."

"Pacquiao stated that while the shoulder sling he was wearing has been removed, he still does not have full joint mobility on his shoulder. According to him, he can't raise his arm at all and can only use his fingers at the moment."


"How’s your injured shoulder after the operation?

Medyo magaling na, medyo medyo lang (A bit well already, only a bit, only a bit)."


"“He tells me it feels better, he went swimming the other day, he’s playing a little basketball so he says it’s coming along fine. But it won’t be a while until he’s in the ring again, three to six months"

Manny came back about 1 year later and spanked Bradley.

[Zaroku]

Thanks for the shout out. Apparently, you also won't believe the copious amounts of medical documents I linked you to regarding this surgery. You also won't accept what Manny's strength and conditioning coach went on record saying, that the most important thing is for Manny to FOLLOW THE REHABILITATION PROTOCOL. You also won't believe the guy in the video that you alluded to (but didn't post for some reason, I wonder why) who said the most important thing is to FOLLOW THE DOCTOR'S REHABILITATION PROTOCOL!!!.

You do choose to believe Manny, who was caught in lie, after lie, after lie.

You don't come out of this looking too smart, do you?

"I never saw a doctor...never did rehab..." hahahahahhaah. Give upppppp!

PAC just lies a lot. He couldn't fill out a standard form he had filled out under penalty of perjury.....

Then made excuses after he lost to floyd.

Now, lawsuit pending.

Hahahahahahahaha!

[travestyny]

Just checking in if you finally found something called evidence but you still have nothing.

I pointed out studies, people, doctors and so on who concurred that they were healed much earlier than anticipated. Some said that their injured healed shoulder was as strong as their good shoulder. Tests concurred.

YOU HAVE NOTHING yet you pretend you do.

Manny felt good at that point in time. Good enough to say that he felt that he was healed but as has been pointed out before, that does not mean that a doctor would concur. Later Manny was examined at it was 80-90% healed.

Easy for all the rest of us to understand this except for you and a few others. Its too bad and so sad! You gotta bring in "OLD" Travestyny back. He would have a field day with your nonsense!!!

Here are other lines that were stated in articles but these ones do not go with your agenda so you avoid them. Manny was not moving his arms as freely as you thought right after surgery and many weeks later. Once he was able to, he felt it was because it was healed. :

"Pacquiao no longer had a sling to support his shoulder but stressed that his movement was still limited. The only sport he is able to do now is chess"

"Although the sling has long been removed, Pacquiao said he has been advised to be extra-cautious with his moves."

"Pacquiao stated that while the shoulder sling he was wearing has been removed, he still does not have full joint mobility on his shoulder. According to him, he can't raise his arm at all and can only use his fingers at the moment."


"How’s your injured shoulder after the operation?

Medyo magaling na, medyo medyo lang (A bit well already, only a bit, only a bit)."


"“He tells me it feels better, he went swimming the other day, he’s playing a little basketball so he says it’s coming along fine. But it won’t be a while until he’s in the ring again, three to six months"

Manny came back about 1 year later and spanked Bradley.

Are you kidding me? You are still going on with this??? No word on why Roach said he talked to the doctor who was doing the rehab, but according to you now says Manny was doing self-rehab. More confirmed lies. Thanks for constantly stepping in **** and then putting your foot in your mouth. Aren't you embarrassed yet? MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE!

Here's an idea. Why don't you become a rehabilitation specialist that specializes in full-thickness rotator cuff rehab? All you'd need is a few basketballs, some badminton rackets, and a few chess boards. Oh, don't forget your scuba diving gear. It could be like a sleep away camp for injured athletes. Had a full-thickness rotator cuff tear? Perfect time to have some fun!!!

Stop trying to convince me! If you want to convince someone, go back to the poll and try to convince some people there. You know, the poll you lost. You are desperate, obsessed, and you can't let it go. Your obsession is seriously sad!!! Move the **** on with your life!!!

[ADP02]

Are you kidding me? You are still going on with this??? No word on why Roach said he talked to the doctor who was doing the rehab, but according to you now says Manny was doing self-rehab. More confirmed lies. Thanks for constantly stepping in **** and then putting your foot in your mouth. Aren't you embarrassed yet? MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE!

Here's an idea. Why don't you become a rehabilitation specialist that specializes in full-thickness rotator cuff rehab? All you'd need is a few basketballs, some badminton rackets, and a few chess boards. Oh, don't forget your scuba diving gear. It could be like a sleep away camp for injured athletes. Had a full-thickness rotator cuff tear? Perfect time to have some fun!!!

Stop trying to convince me! If you want to convince someone, go back to the poll and try to convince some people there. You know, the poll you lost. You are desperate, obsessed, and you can't let it go. Your obsession is seriously sad!!! Move the **** on with your life!!!

Why are you responding with no evidence? More deflections. I have been asking you and you cannot come back with anything. How come?

DEBUNKED: See, Manny was not doing crazy things right after surgery as you incorrectly thought and called it FACTS/EVIDENCE. Its time you go back to your silly thread or better yet, start a new one and name all the things that have been debunked.

What Roach said does not mean that the other did not occur. Manny at first did self rehab. Later he got some help but like I keep on repeating to you, the work at that point in time is still done by Manny not someone else. Again, easy to understand that but you cannot, unless its about Floyd's IV scandal. Then you go on about Floyd is not a doctor and his lies do not count. Floyd's words do not count.
Only what Floyd's no name doctor said is what was important for you. Well, I got a video or 2 and a few articles with Manny's doctor saying that it was a FULL THICKNESS TEAR!!!



There is a difference between feeling better and being able to go at it like an elite athlete. That is one of many problems that you have. Manny healed just like others had but it took longer than that to box at an elite level.


Oh ... I brought up "so sad" so now you repeat like a parrot. I must have hit a nerve ..... AGAIN!!! Oh, and there is no hope for you. The only way someone like you would get it is if I debunk something 100%. If its 98%, its not enough for you. Yet, "OLD" Travestyny's logic worked the complete opposite way. Unless you have 100% proof, you are delusional to think you know something as a fact.


What do I think about your poll:

[ADP02]

PAC just lies a lot. He couldn't fill out a standard form he had filled out under penalty of perjury.....

Then made excuses after he lost to floyd.

Now, lawsuit pending.

Hahahahahahahaha!

Floyd didn't fill out the same standard form correctly either nor at any time notify the NSAC about his serious medical condition (not until 3 weeks after the fight). For Floyd, who resides in Nevada, he can do whatever he wants. The Nevada SAC is OK with that.