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You are widely considered the world’s finest middleweight, and perhaps the best since Marvin Hagler, but who do you consider your biggest threats?
Now it’s a very interesting situation in the middleweight division, because you know Canelo, he’s come into the middleweight division [from super-welterweight]; it’s a different situation. I think Canelo… [Billy Joe] Saunders of course because he’s champion, he’s champion; [Daniel] Jacobs, he’s great, he’s good. There’s a lot of great champions in the middleweight division: it’s a very interesting situation.
In his last fight [against Andy Lee, Saunders] looked good, he looked good. Not easy: in the first couple of rounds he looks good. He not lose control [in] the last rounds, he’s moving good, [shows] balance, and a lot of power.
[Alvarez] is very smart, he has good experience, a lot of power, [but] maybe him coming to 160lbs is difficult for him. Not difficult, but different, because it’s a different size, a different power. Last time with Miguel [Cotto] he looks good; he’s a strong guy.
Andy [Lee], he’s like a warrior: it doesn’t matter for him, with me or different champions, [he will fight anyone]. I like this style, for me it’s very important who is No. 1 in middleweight division, and Andy said, ‘Yes, of course, Gennady. You want fight, I’m ready’. I like this style. Every fight with me is a lot of money, a lot of business, a good fight for us, for boxing, for people. People want to know who’s best in the middleweight division, and Andy, he’s ready [to fight]. Different guys said,
‘Oh, I need time, I need business, I need blah, blah, blah…’ For me, my goal is all the belts in the middleweight division; everybody wants the same situation.
I think if Andy had won against Saunders he would have fought me, because he agreed to fight last year, now [as] champion it’s a much bigger fight, it would have been a huge fight in New York in Madison Square Garden, but Saunders just won the title so you can’t force another champion. It’s huge fight, huge atmosphere you know.
I hope [Alvarez will fight me this year], I hope so. I think he is ready; Alvarez’s team is ready to fight. Golden Boy, they said, ‘I need time just for commercial, he’s ready too, just maybe time for commercial…’ Maybe [in] one year more, maybe two years more, maybe [it would be] like Mayweather and Pacquiao, because this is biggest fight for us.
What is your plan B if the Alvarez fight isn’t made?
I’d get the WBC title [which he has], so I’d have three of the titles, and then see if Saunders would fight, otherwise it’s the same routine: see who else is the biggest fight.
There’s been talk of you stepping up to super-middleweight. How hard do you think the additional eight pounds would be?
My focus now – I’m not big guy – my focus now is 160. For a big fight, for Floyd, especially for Floyd, I’m ready for 155, 154, [but] my focus is 160. For 168, for big champion, for great champion, yes I’m ready of course, maybe next year. And next category, super-middleweight, 168, I never see big champions, big fights [in that division] for me, like pay-per-view fights, big unification fights. I never see that.
When we were talking about 168, first we were talking about [Julio Cesar] Chavez [Jnr]: that would have been a big pay-per-view fight. Then we were talking about [Carl] Froch. To move [divisions], it has to be a big fight, otherwise it doesn’t make sense going up and down. I want big fights. Not difficult [to step up]. Right now [while walking around, I am] 168, and come back to 160, everybody will say ‘Gennady, you’re a big guy, you’re 168’; I can go to 175 and come back because this is my normal weight.
There’s no one at 168 who has agreed to fight. If I did go, [afterwards] I would come back down to middleweight.
Was the Froch fight ever close?
I don’t think [Froch would take a fight], no. Carl likes to talk about the fight, but when it comes down to talking details, it doesn’t go very far.
How frustrating has it been for you to not secure a ‘defining’ fight, and would it change your life to at last get one?
The defining fights are all the champions and big names that say they don’t want to fight. On one side it’s frustrating, it’s a long time. Cotto didn’t happen, and before: Felix Sturm, Sergio Martinez, all my career I don’t have big chance. I understand: I’m okay, I’m okay. Not for me [would it change my career to have a defining fight], maybe for fans; for history.
Tom Loeffler adds: Even though he’s not had that ‘defining’ fight, he’s become the second most marketable boxer in America, after Canelo. Canelo, you have to give him credit where it’s due, and Manny, but it’s his last fight in April, so it’s Canelo and Gennady. Even though he hasn’t had a defining fight, you gotta put it into perspective: he sold out
Madison Square Garden completely, the first non-Puerto Rican fighter to do that in modern times. Felix Trinidad did it, and Miguel Cotto did it. And you have Gennady from Kazakhstan, fighting [David] Lemieux from Canada, and he completely sells out Madison Square Garden. The same thing in Los Angeles, at the StubHub Center, he sold the most tickets out of anyone who fought there. We had to add seats: they never saw that before.
We’ve got used to seeing you fight four times a year, which is unusual at your level. As you pursue the unification fights against more challenging opponents, will it be necessary to fight less often?
Maybe three, maybe two times? I want, I’m ready to [fight] every second month. I feel great, my body’s great. I understand my situation, I understand my position, and opponents. I’m ready, I feel great, I feel good, and I want [to fight] four times, five times per year. I like old school: every second month, fight.
Loeffler: The difference on the timing is that the bigger the fight promotion, the longer it takes as a lead-up. The Lemieux fight’s on pay-per-view; if we did a Canelo fight, that’s a four-month build-up, so you can’t fight as often like when we were fighting in Monte Carlo against [Martin] Murray, or other guys. It’s not that he doesn’t want to fight more often, it’s just the logistics.
Your profile has significantly grown in recent years. When did you notice the attitude towards you change, and how much has it altered your life?
The last couple of years, after the [Marco Antonio] Rubio fight [in 2014], because people – I remember Rubio, he’s a Mexican guy – I go into StubHub Center, maybe 80 per cent of Mexican people like me, not him. It’s phenomenal. [My life hasn’t changed] a lot, I’m a very different guy in the ring and out, inside and outside. My regular life with my family is the same, and maybe in my boxing life there’s more activity, more focus, because I know my goal is all of the belts.
Loeffler: It’s the television exposure. Gennady always had the skills, the punch: the exciting style. In Germany, Universum didn’t put him on their broadcasts, they wouldn’t put him in against Sturm, they wouldn’t put him in against [Sebastian] Zbik. Once he got on HBO, all of a sudden people were exposed to it. Add that to working with [trainer] Abel Sanchez for the last five years adding another element to his style, and with 21 knockouts in a row, that’s what created his popularity.
Now it’s a very interesting situation in the middleweight division, because you know Canelo, he’s come into the middleweight division [from super-welterweight]; it’s a different situation. I think Canelo… [Billy Joe] Saunders of course because he’s champion, he’s champion; [Daniel] Jacobs, he’s great, he’s good. There’s a lot of great champions in the middleweight division: it’s a very interesting situation.
In his last fight [against Andy Lee, Saunders] looked good, he looked good. Not easy: in the first couple of rounds he looks good. He not lose control [in] the last rounds, he’s moving good, [shows] balance, and a lot of power.
[Alvarez] is very smart, he has good experience, a lot of power, [but] maybe him coming to 160lbs is difficult for him. Not difficult, but different, because it’s a different size, a different power. Last time with Miguel [Cotto] he looks good; he’s a strong guy.
Andy [Lee], he’s like a warrior: it doesn’t matter for him, with me or different champions, [he will fight anyone]. I like this style, for me it’s very important who is No. 1 in middleweight division, and Andy said, ‘Yes, of course, Gennady. You want fight, I’m ready’. I like this style. Every fight with me is a lot of money, a lot of business, a good fight for us, for boxing, for people. People want to know who’s best in the middleweight division, and Andy, he’s ready [to fight]. Different guys said,
‘Oh, I need time, I need business, I need blah, blah, blah…’ For me, my goal is all the belts in the middleweight division; everybody wants the same situation.
I think if Andy had won against Saunders he would have fought me, because he agreed to fight last year, now [as] champion it’s a much bigger fight, it would have been a huge fight in New York in Madison Square Garden, but Saunders just won the title so you can’t force another champion. It’s huge fight, huge atmosphere you know.
I hope [Alvarez will fight me this year], I hope so. I think he is ready; Alvarez’s team is ready to fight. Golden Boy, they said, ‘I need time just for commercial, he’s ready too, just maybe time for commercial…’ Maybe [in] one year more, maybe two years more, maybe [it would be] like Mayweather and Pacquiao, because this is biggest fight for us.
What is your plan B if the Alvarez fight isn’t made?
I’d get the WBC title [which he has], so I’d have three of the titles, and then see if Saunders would fight, otherwise it’s the same routine: see who else is the biggest fight.
There’s been talk of you stepping up to super-middleweight. How hard do you think the additional eight pounds would be?
My focus now – I’m not big guy – my focus now is 160. For a big fight, for Floyd, especially for Floyd, I’m ready for 155, 154, [but] my focus is 160. For 168, for big champion, for great champion, yes I’m ready of course, maybe next year. And next category, super-middleweight, 168, I never see big champions, big fights [in that division] for me, like pay-per-view fights, big unification fights. I never see that.
When we were talking about 168, first we were talking about [Julio Cesar] Chavez [Jnr]: that would have been a big pay-per-view fight. Then we were talking about [Carl] Froch. To move [divisions], it has to be a big fight, otherwise it doesn’t make sense going up and down. I want big fights. Not difficult [to step up]. Right now [while walking around, I am] 168, and come back to 160, everybody will say ‘Gennady, you’re a big guy, you’re 168’; I can go to 175 and come back because this is my normal weight.
There’s no one at 168 who has agreed to fight. If I did go, [afterwards] I would come back down to middleweight.
Was the Froch fight ever close?
I don’t think [Froch would take a fight], no. Carl likes to talk about the fight, but when it comes down to talking details, it doesn’t go very far.
How frustrating has it been for you to not secure a ‘defining’ fight, and would it change your life to at last get one?
The defining fights are all the champions and big names that say they don’t want to fight. On one side it’s frustrating, it’s a long time. Cotto didn’t happen, and before: Felix Sturm, Sergio Martinez, all my career I don’t have big chance. I understand: I’m okay, I’m okay. Not for me [would it change my career to have a defining fight], maybe for fans; for history.
Tom Loeffler adds: Even though he’s not had that ‘defining’ fight, he’s become the second most marketable boxer in America, after Canelo. Canelo, you have to give him credit where it’s due, and Manny, but it’s his last fight in April, so it’s Canelo and Gennady. Even though he hasn’t had a defining fight, you gotta put it into perspective: he sold out
Madison Square Garden completely, the first non-Puerto Rican fighter to do that in modern times. Felix Trinidad did it, and Miguel Cotto did it. And you have Gennady from Kazakhstan, fighting [David] Lemieux from Canada, and he completely sells out Madison Square Garden. The same thing in Los Angeles, at the StubHub Center, he sold the most tickets out of anyone who fought there. We had to add seats: they never saw that before.
We’ve got used to seeing you fight four times a year, which is unusual at your level. As you pursue the unification fights against more challenging opponents, will it be necessary to fight less often?
Maybe three, maybe two times? I want, I’m ready to [fight] every second month. I feel great, my body’s great. I understand my situation, I understand my position, and opponents. I’m ready, I feel great, I feel good, and I want [to fight] four times, five times per year. I like old school: every second month, fight.
Loeffler: The difference on the timing is that the bigger the fight promotion, the longer it takes as a lead-up. The Lemieux fight’s on pay-per-view; if we did a Canelo fight, that’s a four-month build-up, so you can’t fight as often like when we were fighting in Monte Carlo against [Martin] Murray, or other guys. It’s not that he doesn’t want to fight more often, it’s just the logistics.
Your profile has significantly grown in recent years. When did you notice the attitude towards you change, and how much has it altered your life?
The last couple of years, after the [Marco Antonio] Rubio fight [in 2014], because people – I remember Rubio, he’s a Mexican guy – I go into StubHub Center, maybe 80 per cent of Mexican people like me, not him. It’s phenomenal. [My life hasn’t changed] a lot, I’m a very different guy in the ring and out, inside and outside. My regular life with my family is the same, and maybe in my boxing life there’s more activity, more focus, because I know my goal is all of the belts.
Loeffler: It’s the television exposure. Gennady always had the skills, the punch: the exciting style. In Germany, Universum didn’t put him on their broadcasts, they wouldn’t put him in against Sturm, they wouldn’t put him in against [Sebastian] Zbik. Once he got on HBO, all of a sudden people were exposed to it. Add that to working with [trainer] Abel Sanchez for the last five years adding another element to his style, and with 21 knockouts in a row, that’s what created his popularity.
You gotta love him.
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