Comments Thread For: Porter Plans To **** Away at Thurman's Ribs, Break His Body
Former IBF world welterweight champion Shawn Porter (26-1-1, 16KOs) will be looking to punish and break down the body of WBA welterweight beltholder Keith THurman (26-0, 22KOs).
I've been waiting for Porter to say this. Excellent gameplan, and it will work. Porter by mid/late rounds body KO. Then he gives Avanesyan a similar fate next up.
Skills pay the bills in this case unless Thurman truly is chinny or mentally soft and Porter can pull a career best Maidana vs Broner type of performance. But Thurman is much better than Broner and I'm not sure Porter is any better than Maidana at his peak. Well, Maidana's best was at 140 so he's probably a little better at 147.
But I don't know if Porter has the stamina to pressure for 12 rounds anyway. I remember his win over Devin, he was great the first four or five rounds, building up a lead on the scorecards with pressure, but then he basically charged, maybe landed one shot, and held because he had no energy. He basically spoiled against Devin the rest of the fight, and got credit for it because he was already ahead and Devin didn't know how to get off against a rough fighter like that. But you could definitely see Porter's energy slipping.
So even if Keith gets tired, Shawn might too. I think Keith is faster, rangier, and more powerful. He may even be more technical, definitely has shown more elements (boxing off back foot) than Shawn. So it's hard to pick Shawn here. Of course, there is the intangible aspect, plus the fact we saw Thurman struggle with the likes of Collazo. But Shawn struggled with Brook so I mean, we're supposed to pick Shawn because Thurman struggled with Collazo but ignore the fact Shawn struggled with someone in Brook who probably fought similar to how Thurman is going to fight? Brook has better defense and knows how to handle Shawn's style better than Thurman, so there's that, but Thurman is faster and more powerful than Brook.
So I think Porter can win but I'm picking Thurman all the way. Porter has one way to win and one way only, and that is to walk through Thurman's bombs, because we know Porter's defense isn't good either, and totally grind Thurman down either checking his chin or to the body. Thurman was hurt to the body against Collazo but Collazo, overrated as he is, does have a nice left hand, and he landed his absolute best left hand to Thurman's liver, and it still didn't even drop Thurman...
So is Thurman really soft there, or did Collazo just land the perfect shot, but Thurman still didn't go down so.... Porter can hit harder than Collazo so he'll have to do a lot of that.
It could definitely happen. Thurman has shown some vulnerabilities in fights against guys who took his best shots, like Collazo and Guerrero, and still kept coming. It's like Thurman doesn't trust his power to finish those guys once they take some good shots, so he's worried they'll be able to keep coming, so he doesn't throw as much. He lets them come on even though he has the better artillery and could keep putting them on the canvas if he just kept trusting his weapons. Or maybe he just gets tired, I don't know, but he fades against guys he shouldn't.
So it could be that a grinder with snappy punches and power like Porter, with a big heart, could end up being exactly what's needed to beat Thurman. Could be that Thurman outclasses him early, but can't take the grind as well as Porter late and eventually folds. We could be in for a real shocker then.
But, Porter is actually the only one I've seen crack, when he got knocked down by Adrien Broner. So who says he has some super chin? Maybe when Thurman hits him, he doesn't stay up like Robert Guerrero, he goes down like almost everyone else, including Collazo.
So my odds would be, 85% chance Thurman wins, 45% by decision, 40% by KO. Then 10% chance Porter by KO, 5% Porter by decision if he grinds Thurman down enough to win late rounds but Thurman survives to the bell anyway. In general though Thurman should win every round unless Shawn just outworks and outgrinds him or tires him out or hurts him.
Porter just cant let Thurman set-up plain & simple. He has to come in slipping and once hes in, stay in & dont let him out. It might not be pretty but its his best chance. Thurman probably is the only current boxer at the championship level that uses lateral movement properly but I cant recall a fight that he uses angles on the inside so Shawns gameplan sounds about right. The only problem I see is the layoff which affects Porters style more than Thurmans, hence is why this fights been delayed. #WarPorter
all porter does after hugging and slow dancing with his dad in the ring is just rush his opponent - if Thurman is that good of a boxer he will time him counter him and make him miss and make him pay - and maybe if he gets him hurt he can use that 'one time' power he always boasts about (but didn't work on guerrero) to drop him
good developmental guys but still miles away from super elite
id like to see spence crush them both after he crushes brook if kel has the stones to face him
Thurman beat guerrero that's legitimate
porter - didn't see him lose in England but maybe judges didn't give him as fair of a shake but heard he still lost
he beat broner but I forget at what weight - broner is a 140 pounder struggling at 147 with solid competition
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