Mayweather vs Marciano: Who was Greater?

[DinoCop]

MArciano beat Joe Louis, you give him credit for that. But Floyd is in 'nother dimension.

[Joe Beamish]

Rocky beat guys that were bigger than him in every fight. Floyd spent much of his career beating guys who were smaller than him and avoided the bigger, taller opponents with the exception of ODLH who was way past his prime.

[M Bison]

NOTE: This is how you spot a real turd on this forum. instantly claims someone is much better, goes into all the reasons why the other is bad and doesn't make A SINGLE COMMENT as to why the first is better. Absolute joke.This joker saw a marciano documentary and now thinks he's an expert. Probably never seen a full marciano fight ever.

Rocky had considerably less media surrounding his career. He also CONSIDERABLY less quality of opponents. No one then hardly ever knew him until late in his career + the 2-3 quality fighters he beat were either over the hill or severely over the hill.

if you want to pick holes in resumes, you can do it to anyone. Floyd's resume and quality of work is far beyond,as in far far beyond, what Marciano did in his brief stint as champion. or we can go into how 70% of Rocky's resume is made out of part time fighters, bouncers and street tough guys. Not pro athletes. But i'm sure you're going to tell me they are better than world champions

You are talking about a guy who's been world champ since '98 ffs. Consistently fought top or best opponents in his division. He's clearly an ATG and has done way more in his career than Marciano.

Your comment comes across very emotional, it's the usual old thing you throw your come-back in the form of an insult but you don't give any proof to the claim.

Like someone else said Marciano was a heavyweight slugger, he fought all his challengers and he fought some of the hardest hitters about and each time he got into the fight he found a way to win with what limitations he had which you could call adversity...
SOMETHING Floyd on the contrary never had to deal with.

It's pretty obvious why Marciano is greater but I was simply proving that there are so many holes you could poke through Floyds entire career, we know Marciano is clean can we say the same about Floyd who has blatantly been found doing dodgy things?
"Money is power.. power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely!

I'll go into it further since you've had a little temper tantrum


Different eras, different fighters, this doesn't mean that a fighter of a current era can't be greater than one of the past we take a look at Floyd actions in the media and his options of opponents all extremely questionable and also take into consideration that we're in an era where there are like 4 or 5 different world champions fighting so more doesn't = quality it's quantity over quality.

Good fighters lose when they're matched up to continually fight the best take a little look at the UFC just because someone has 3/4 losses it doesn't make them bad it just simply means they fought all challengers and when you're a champion that's what you're supposed to do!
Rocky fought in that era where ducking was not at the level that boxing currently is at, Floyd fights in an era where HE calls the shots, he calls the weight, the gloves, the ring advertisements, the drug testing, the opponent regardless of it being a mandatory FLOYD DOES WHAT FLOYD WANTS TO DO!

On another note being world champion from 1998 who cares, like I said multiple belts its easy to procure a belt nowadays If there were as many about back in the day when Marciano was about well Marciano would have had been a world champion a lot earlier in his career too.

Floyd does not have a better win than a past prime Joe Louis or Jersey Joe Walcott that and Floyd never woed the crowd like Marciano did, Marciano is loved Floyd is disliked and not even respected as a person or boxer, speaks volumes about his so called "all time greatness, TBE".

[therealpugilist]

Your comment comes across very emotional, it's the usual old thing you throw your come-back in the form of an insult but you don't give any proof to the claim.

Like someone else said Marciano was a heavyweight slugger, he fought all his challengers and he fought some of the hardest hitters about and each time he got into the fight he found a way to win with what limitations he had which you could call adversity...
SOMETHING Floyd on the contrary never had to deal with.

It's pretty obvious why Marciano is greater but I was simply proving that there are so many holes you could poke through Floyds entire career, we know Marciano is clean can we say the same about Floyd who has blatantly been found doing dodgy things?
"Money is power.. power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely!

I'll go into it further since you've had a little temper tantrum


Different eras, different fighters, this doesn't mean that a fighter of a current era can't be greater than one of the past we take a look at Floyd actions in the media and his options of opponents all extremely questionable and also take into consideration that we're in an era where there are like 4 or 5 different world champions fighting so more doesn't = quality it's quantity over quality.

Good fighters lose when they're matched up to continually fight the best take a little look at the UFC just because someone has 3/4 losses it doesn't make them bad it just simply means they fought all challengers and when you're a champion that's what you're supposed to do!
Rocky fought in that era where ducking was not at the level that boxing currently is at, Floyd fights in an era where HE calls the shots, he calls the weight, the gloves, the ring advertisements, the drug testing, the opponent regardless of it being a mandatory FLOYD DOES WHAT FLOYD WANTS TO DO!

On another note being world champion from 1998 who cares, like I said multiple belts its easy to procure a belt nowadays If there were as many about back in the day when Marciano was about well Marciano would have had been a world champion a lot earlier in his career too.

bro kill yourself...you wouldnt know a good resume if it was stamped on your palm

hell the can man is your hero....you like great fighters with thin resumes...every elite fighter he faced was past prime and washed up

[j0zef]

That's like a bunch of kids with downsyndrome deciding on who is the best presidential candidate. No one gives a crap.

Yeah since I've read that you think a guy who has 6-7 legit fights at top level, arguably has as good a resume as a 18 year world champion in 5 divisions, fighting everybody incl. 21 or so world champions - it's hardly worth trying to educate,because you have already spoken about something you actually know nothing about.

You can say what you want, but we both know it's the truth.

Black/white footage and some years does not change quality.

Dude, your argument is basically that "you're all stupid and I know better. As for "18 year world champion in 5 divisions", that's laughable. You're downplaying Marciano while embellishing Floyd's accomplishments.

And here's the truly ironic part. I actually agree with you that Floyd's resume is better. But that doesn't mean it's not 'arguable'.

[M Bison]

MArciano beat Joe Louis, you give him credit for that. But Floyd is in 'nother dimension.

Joe Louis Vs Rocky Marciano was a fight that was had on even playing fields, no dodgy doping going on, no unfair stipulations at all.

Floyd Mayweather Vs Manny Pacquiao a fight that had seen Floyd cheating with drug usage USADA out him for it and what happens is USADA hide things about as per usual, then all the other terms that Pacquiao had to agree to...
And this is a unification fight, simply put Floyd didn't want to fight the best on even playing fields.

[LacedUp]

Your comment comes across very emotional, it's the usual old thing you throw your come-back in the form of an insult but you don't give any proof to the claim.

Like someone else said Marciano was a heavyweight slugger, he fought all his challengers and he fought some of the hardest hitters about and each time he got into the fight he found a way to win with what limitations he had which you could call adversity...
SOMETHING Floyd on the contrary never had to deal with.

It's pretty obvious why Marciano is greater but I was simply proving that there are so many holes you could poke through Floyds entire career, we know Marciano is clean can we say the same about Floyd who has blatantly been found doing dodgy things?
"Money is power.. power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely!

I'll go into it further since you've had a little temper tantrum


Different eras, different fighters, this doesn't mean that a fighter of a current era can't be greater than one of the past we take a look at Floyd actions in the media and his options of opponents all extremely questionable and also take into consideration that we're in an era where there are like 4 or 5 different world champions fighting so more doesn't = quality it's quantity over quality.

Good fighters lose when they're matched up to continually fight the best take a little look at the UFC just because someone has 3/4 losses it doesn't make them bad it just simply means they fought all challengers and when you're a champion that's what you're supposed to do!
Rocky fought in that era where ducking was not at the level that boxing currently is at, Floyd fights in an era where HE calls the shots, he calls the weight, the gloves, the ring advertisements, the drug testing, the opponent regardless of it being a mandatory FLOYD DOES WHAT FLOYD WANTS TO DO!

On another note being world champion from 1998 who cares, like I said multiple belts its easy to procure a belt nowadays If there were as many about back in the day when Marciano was about well Marciano would have had been a world champion a lot earlier in his career too.

Floyd does not have a better win than a past prime Joe Louis or Jersey Joe Walcott that and Floyd never woed the crowd like Marciano did, Marciano is loved Floyd is disliked and not even respected as a person or boxer, speaks volumes about his so called "all time greatness, TBE".

Again, all about Mayweather.

Usual biased idiotic crap.

[LacedUp]

Dude, your argument is basically that "you're all stupid and I know better. As for "18 year world champion in 5 divisions", that's laughable. You're downplaying Marciano while embellishing Floyd's accomplishments.

And here's the truly ironic part. I actually agree with you that Floyd's resume is better. But that doesn't mean it's not 'arguable'.

No that's just fact. It's clear that no one knows anything about Marciano when they say his resume is arguably as good or better than Mayweather's.

[TX_BOXNG]

The guy who knocked out heavies or the guy who out pop shot welters

[M Bison]

Again, all about Mayweather.

Usual biased idiotic crap.

Biased is posting facts?

Hmmm, okay then, beating heavyweights who are bigger than you without any type of advantage isn't as impressive as the dude cherry picking the opponents, when to fight them and all the other countless damn cowardly things.

Roach once said something along the line of leave the rules to the higher authority sadly Floyd isn't as much of a sporting person he doesn't care about fair play or sporting integrity hence why he goes about fighting the way he does.