Cheaters falling like flies...all hail VADA...who will be caught next?

[sunny31]

Pacquiao was weighing in the mid 140s at 130 he was forced to move up.

I think everything after 135 was out of choice rather than necessity, I think he could have stayed at 135 for a while, he looked fantastic there.

[Reloaded]

I think everything after 135 was out of choice rather than necessity, I think he could have stayed at 135 for a while, he looked fantastic there.

Really , a guy that is 152 pound with 6% body fat wouldnt be struggling to make 135 only 6mths earlier would he .

Nov. 28, 2008

The size difference is what everyone is talking about. Manny is mature. He’s a much bigger person than he used to be. He’s not that skinny, 112-pound kid anymore. He weighs 152 pounds right now [a few weeks before the fight]. His body fat is six percent. He’s coming down to 147, not going up. He’s coming down, just like Oscar is. The biggest thing is, when someone goes up a weight class and fights and then comes back down to his original weight class, he usually has bad results. You see it in history. It happened to Roy Jones [who went from light heavyweight to heavyweight and back down]. Oscar will suffer to make 147; and I think he’ll be weaker as a result. I don’t think the bigger guy will be the stronger guy on Dec. 6. He’ll be taller, maybe a little heavier, but not stronger. Manny will be the bigger puncher, the faster puncher, the busier guy. Activity is my biggest thing. And Manny is better prepared for that. We fought four times this year. Oscar hasn’t fought four times in four years. I think speed and activity wins this fight, not size.

[bboy80]

I don't understand how anyone can refuse testing, it should be mandatory..

[aldo5408]

Pavlik went up 10 lb to fight the former middleweight kingpin. Pavlik was also 6'1+ with lots of room to add on to his frame and had been complaining about his ability to make 160.

Whats this have to do with Vada?

I don't get what people obsession with moving up is.

You know why guys move up? Because they starve themselves and boil down to weights they should never have been fighting at in the first place. They can get away with it when they are young, then as they get older they cant do it anymore.

Name me fighters that have moved up after 34 years old?

Floyd didn't. He maxxed out 154 at 29.

The only two guys that really moved up big and worked on moving up way above their natural weight were Roy Jones, and Pacquiao. Everyone else just drifted up to their natural weight.

Floyd. Oscar, Broner, now Ward is drifting up to his natural weight... you know he won his olympic medal at 178lb...

Yet here is GGG who is weighing in on fight night the same as Super Welterweights but he has to move up when he hasn't even accomplished what he wants to in the division yet?

Pavlik had trouble making 160 really? That's why after the Hopkins fight he went back to 160

[Lester Tutor]

[nacho daddy]

Jesse Vargas refused Vada testing, even when Sadam Ali offered to pay for it, its the most stringent form of testing

yea yea yea and lance Armstrong pissed on VADA for 15 years. tests can be bought by big money like haymon and froid had to get any result you want

[nacho daddy]

Its a pitty pavlik the alcoholic couldnt stay sober so ggg could make him a goodboy. Pavlik could take all the peds in the world and he still wouldnt learn how to box. The guy couldnt even double the jab.

the heart and courage Pavlik showed against taylor will be remembered for 100 years and more

[Lester Tutor]

yea yea yea and lance Armstrong pissed on VADA for 15 years. tests can be bought by big money like haymon and froid had to get any result you want

no no the best part was that Pac was afraid of needles in giving blood! pissing in a cup was sufficient for #48..

"there's no doubt in my mind that Pac was on stuff..." - Victor Conte

[nacho daddy]

no no the best part was that Pac was afraid of needles in giving blood! pissing in a cup was sufficient for #48..

"there's no doubt in my mind that Pac was on stuff..." - Victor Conte

yea and holyfield mosley Peterson roy jones etc were clean?

[elgu]

Pavlik was a man. He went up TEN pounds to fight the best fighter at that time. Gg won't go up more than 4 pounds .

And he got schooled like the robotic boxer he was. Weight classes don't make a fighter, they just prove how much a fighterr can drain. Broner is a multiple division champion, but he was nothing compared to a guy like Hagler.