Comments Thread For: Povetkin Questions Whether Wilder Actually Intended To Fight Him

[b00g13man]

You can't make this **** up

[Boxing Logic]

Questions? There's no question now that WADA said Povetkin only had 0.07 micrograms of meldonium in his body when up to 1 microgram is allowed. That means Wilder and the WBC got it wrong because they're so amateur or corrupt, Povetkin never failed any test! He could have had 14 times as much meldonium that he had, because 14 times 0.07 is 0.98, and it still would have been allowed. He wasn't even close to cheating.

Now that we know the facts, it's clear Wilder just ducked out of the fight. He pretended Povetkin tested dirty, and the WBC and the boxing media I guess went along with it because they didn't know the rules or because they're corrupt, but Povetkin didn't actually test dirty.

Since Povetkin did not actually fail any drug test, and actually had 14 times less of the substance in his body than is allowed, that means Wilder dropped out of the fight against a clean fighter. He created an excuse that has fallen apart now that the facts have come out, and he just dropped out. He ducked.

It's crazy because I remember reading here how so many people were predicting Wilder would duck Povetkin, how they could tell Wilder never wanted to fight him, but Wilder had a few fans here who kept defending him, and then when the fight got signed, they said "see? He's going to knock Povetkin out! He was never scared! Bomb Squad!" But as usual the biased Haymon fans were wrong, just like when they defended Stevenson for years until it became obvious even to them. You guys owe an apology to all the posters who predicted Wilder would duck Povetkin because they were right.

And just so you're wondering, this is why you don't give boxers credit for fights until they actually fight. Wilder hasn't fought a top guy his whole career, but you wanted to give him credit for fighting just one B+ guy in Povetkin, one, before he even fought him.

It's similar with Andre Ward. He hasn't fought one A fighter his whole career, and it's been five years since he even fought a B+ fighter like old Abraham/Kessler or Froch, but you already want to give him credit for fighting Kovalev. Even though fighting only one A fighter like Kovalev every five years still isn't often enough for my liking as a boxing fan, I will still give Ward massive credit for fighting Kovalev just because my expectations are so low of boxing these days, even one good fight is something to be thankful for, that's how much we boxing fans have been used as doormats, but until Ward stops giving different answers every time someone asks him about whether Kovalev will happen this year, and until he actually fights him and proves he's not going to fake an injury to get out of the fight, you can't give him credit.

That's the mistake yall keep making. These ducking fighters create a pattern of never fighting anyone good, but then yall question why people are skeptical that they will go through with a good fight. Guess what, you never heard that about Ruslan Provodnikov, for example, when he signed to face Lucas Matthysse. Yall never heard "Matthysse can punch really hard, Provodnikov might fake an injury to get out of this one." That's because Ruslan has a history of fighting the best so boxing fans know to trust him that he will always try to fight the best.

But when Danny signed to fight Lucas? Many people worried he would fake an injury to get out. Now why is this? Were people just racist against Philly Ricans? Na it aint that. It's because real boxing fans recognize patterns. And smart boxing fans can recognize patterns early. They can tell the difference between the fighters who really want to fight the best, who fans can rely on always trying to fight the best, and the fighters who get cornered into taking one good fight reluctantly who you know won't ever fight another one even if they win.

That doesn't mean we're always right when we recognize those patterns, but since we come from an objective place unlike many racial boxing fans, we're in a good position to recognize the patterns 99% of the time. And usually what we say early gets confirmed later. People always made fun of Danny and Danny's dad because they could tell, even without insider knowledge, that Danny's dad was protecting him. Then a few months ago, Danny's dad did an interview where he said Danny shouldn't fight the best, that he didn't believe in fighting the best.

Same with Adonis Stevenson. We were all with him after the Dawson fight, but objective people could recognize very quickly after that that he would be the type of "champ" that holds the belt hostage and ducks everyone. But for years racial boxing fans tried to defend this guy. Eventually it became so obvious, our initial claim of Adonis being a ducker and ****ty "champion" was proven right, to everyone, but as usual the racial boxing fans were years behind in figuring it out.

Wilder is just the latest example, and he used a trickier strategy to fool yall, because he knew everyone would fall for the drug angle because of all the su****ions about Russian athletes after the Sharapova issue. This is going to give him really good cover with the fans who don't look into it, but as it turns out, Povetkin only had 7% of the allowed amount of meldonium, so he wasn't even close, not even with 90%, of cheating. That means Wilder dropped out of a fight against someone who never failed a drug test, no matter what misinformed media report, which is the definition of a duck.

[John Locke]

lol this fat joker needs to stfu, Wilder would've KOd even this juiced version of him

[Larry the boss]

the point is larry,

if you are such a bad ass fighter, if you are a prime american heavyweight champion, if you are carrying a 36-0, 35 KO, record, you shoulndt give a fck if your opponent did some mild doping.

Wilder needs to carry himself like a boxer who is 36-0, with 35 KOs.

Im not excusing povetkin, he's russian and they have a history of doping.

Im just disappointed that Wilder got scared and used it as an excuse to back out of a fight.

YOU ARE 36-0 W/ 35 KOs.

ACT LIKE IT.

Have you ever fought before?? boxing is dangerous enough and now you want him to fight someone who is dirty?? wheres the damn respect?

[bigjavi973]

Of course Wilder was afraid of this old, short, walking fat body. That's why he had Haymon put the sh.it in his cereal.

hahahahahaha quick someone put a picture of povetkin with the jordan crying face haha

[Rip Chudd]

I don't know what's more pathetic, Povetkin for cheating or the so called boxing fans on these forums defending him cheating

[SterlingStained]

Have you ever fought before?? boxing is dangerous enough and now you want him to fight someone who is dirty?? wheres the damn respect?

I don't know what's more pathetic, Povetkin for cheating or the so called boxing fans on these forums defending him cheating

did yall have a problem with floyd using a iv maneuver deemed a ped masking technique by the WORLD ANTI DOPING ASSOCIATION? a technique popluraized by lance armstrong???

of course yall didnt....

[b00g13man]

Questions? There's no question now that WADA said Povetkin only had 0.07 micrograms of meldonium in his body when up to 1 microgram is allowed. That means Wilder and the WBC got it wrong because they're so amateur or corrupt, Povetkin never failed any test! He could have had 14 times as much meldonium that he had, because 14 times 0.07 is 0.98, and it still would have been allowed. He wasn't even close to cheating.

Now that we know the facts, it's clear Wilder just ducked out of the fight. He pretended Povetkin tested dirty, and the WBC and the boxing media I guess went along with it because they didn't know the rules or because they're corrupt, but Povetkin didn't actually test dirty.

Since Povetkin did not actually fail any drug test, and actually had 14 times less of the substance in his body than is allowed, that means Wilder dropped out of the fight against a clean fighter. He created an excuse that has fallen apart now that the facts have come out, and he just dropped out. He ducked.

It's crazy because I remember reading here how so many people were predicting Wilder would duck Povetkin, how they could tell Wilder never wanted to fight him, but Wilder had a few fans here who kept defending him, and then when the fight got signed, they said "see? He's going to knock Povetkin out! He was never scared! Bomb Squad!" But as usual the biased Haymon fans were wrong, just like when they defended Stevenson for years until it became obvious even to them. You guys owe an apology to all the posters who predicted Wilder would duck Povetkin because they were right.

And just so you're wondering, this is why you don't give boxers credit for fights until they actually fight. Wilder hasn't fought a top guy his whole career, but you wanted to give him credit for fighting just one B+ guy in Povetkin, one, before he even fought him.

It's similar with Andre Ward. He hasn't fought one A fighter his whole career, and it's been five years since he even fought a B+ fighter like old Abraham/Kessler or Froch, but you already want to give him credit for fighting Kovalev. Even though fighting only one A fighter like Kovalev every five years still isn't often enough for my liking as a boxing fan, I will still give Ward massive credit for fighting Kovalev just because my expectations are so low of boxing these days, even one good fight is something to be thankful for, that's how much we boxing fans have been used as doormats, but until Ward stops giving different answers every time someone asks him about whether Kovalev will happen this year, and until he actually fights him and proves he's not going to fake an injury to get out of the fight, you can't give him credit.

That's the mistake yall keep making. These ducking fighters create a pattern of never fighting anyone good, but then yall question why people are skeptical that they will go through with a good fight. Guess what, you never heard that about Ruslan Provodnikov, for example, when he signed to face Lucas Matthysse. Yall never heard "Matthysse can punch really hard, Provodnikov might fake an injury to get out of this one." That's because Ruslan has a history of fighting the best so boxing fans know to trust him that he will always try to fight the best.

But when Danny signed to fight Lucas? Many people worried he would fake an injury to get out. Now why is this? Were people just racist against Philly Ricans? Na it aint that. It's because real boxing fans recognize patterns. And smart boxing fans can recognize patterns early. They can tell the difference between the fighters who really want to fight the best, who fans can rely on always trying to fight the best, and the fighters who get cornered into taking one good fight reluctantly who you know won't ever fight another one even if they win.

That doesn't mean we're always right when we recognize those patterns, but since we come from an objective place unlike many racial boxing fans, we're in a good position to recognize the patterns 99% of the time. And usually what we say early gets confirmed later. People always made fun of Danny and Danny's dad because they could tell, even without insider knowledge, that Danny's dad was protecting him. Then a few months ago, Danny's dad did an interview where he said Danny shouldn't fight the best, that he didn't believe in fighting the best.

Same with Adonis Stevenson. We were all with him after the Dawson fight, but objective people could recognize very quickly after that that he would be the type of "champ" that holds the belt hostage and ducks everyone. But for years racial boxing fans tried to defend this guy. Eventually it became so obvious, our initial claim of Adonis being a ducker and ****ty "champion" was proven right, to everyone, but as usual the racial boxing fans were years behind in figuring it out.

Wilder is just the latest example, and he used a trickier strategy to fool yall, because he knew everyone would fall for the drug angle because of all the su****ions about Russian athletes after the Sharapova issue. This is going to give him really good cover with the fans who don't look into it, but as it turns out, Povetkin only had 7% of the allowed amount of meldonium, so he wasn't even close, not even with 90%, of cheating. That means Wilder dropped out of a fight against someone who never failed a drug test, no matter what misinformed media report, which is the definition of a duck.

You failed this thesis right from the get go. The 0.07 figure came from Ryabinsky. Not even going to bother to read the rest of that tripe.

[ShoulderRoll]

Wilder actually wasted money to fly over to Europe early, in order to get acclimated. He did everything in his power to make the fight happen.

It's the piece of **** Povetkin who ruined everything by coming up dirty. Why was he even taking a substance that's intended for people with heart conditions, anyway?

[uniquehump]

the point is larry,

if you are such a bad ass fighter, if you are a prime american heavyweight champion, if you are carrying a 36-0, 35 KO, record, you shoulndt give a fck if your opponent did some mild doping.

Wilder needs to carry himself like a boxer who is 36-0, with 35 KOs.

Im not excusing povetkin, he's russian and they have a history of doping.

Im just disappointed that Wilder got scared and used it as an excuse to back out of a fight.

YOU ARE 36-0 W/ 35 KOs.

ACT LIKE IT.

I don't get it. If a fighter tests positive for an illegal substance, the fight will not be sanctioned. Wilder couldn't fight him if he wanted to. I do believe that after his keep busy fight, he'll fight Povetkin. Why fight another roug opponent and jeopardize a fight with Povetkin later in the year? I suppose he's supposed to not fight anyone until Povetkin is done serving a possible suspension.