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  • Simurgh
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    #11
    Another thing that goes heavily against Wlad is Jennings IMO.

    Wlad misses Manny badly.

    I don't think Wlad can't win or if he does it is because somehow Fury was unmotivated or unprepared. I still want to see how Fury deals with the heavy, accurate punches. Wlad didn't do anything the first match - partly because Fury didn't let him and didn't himself took any risks, partly because Wlad was on autopilot. Don't sleep on Wlad ability. He does less things than Fury does, but those things he does, he does them much better than anyone else in HW.

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    • Sparked_26
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      #12
      Originally posted by Simurgh
      Another thing that goes heavily against Wlad is Jennings IMO.

      Wlad misses Manny badly.

      I don't think Wlad can't win or if he does it is because somehow Fury was unmotivated or unprepared. I still want to see how Fury deals with the heavy, accurate punches. Wlad didn't do anything the first match - partly because Fury didn't let him and didn't himself took any risks, partly because Wlad was on autopilot.
      Wlad did get him with something solid a few times. But Tyson really didn't give him anything for nothing did he?

      Bookies still have this an even fight over here. Which is rare really when you think about how the other fight panned out. I would be tempted by Wlad if he was a better price. He is still obviously the puncher in the fight - maybe that's why the bookies are being such pussy's.

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      • Simurgh
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        #13
        Originally posted by Sparked_26
        Wlad did get him with something solid a few times. But Tyson really didn't give him anything for nothing did he?

        Bookies still have this an even fight over here. Which is rare really when you think about how the other fight panned out. I would be tempted by Wlad if he was a better price. He is still obviously the puncher in the fight - maybe that's why the bookies are being such pussy's.
        Part of the interest is that Wlad really gave a poor performance in the first fight. This is regardless of how much Tyson affected him to look bad. Wlad didn't throw a right hand to that extend he got questions after the fight wether his hand is injured. And this was not from some random fans, but boxing experts. Lennox expressed that he also was really surprised.

        I am not saying that he would be able to connect with the right same as in other fights, but at least he would give Tyson something to think about. Wlad was trying his left hook, over and over, but it didn't work, and good trainer would force him to change something.

        I find odds ok-ish. I think it's more like 70:30 Fury, but far from that Wlad only has a punchers chance. He can still win on points. I wouldn't be that surprised. If he fights 12 rounds like he fought the 12th in the last fight.. well we might have something interesting.

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          #14
          I don't think Wlad is shot by any stretch of the imagination, heavyweights are always able to last longer.

          He is in decline for sure, but still has some good fights left. If he faced guys like Povetkin right now, I have no doubt he would do the same thing to them. I think Wlad would have had problems with Fury at any stage of this career. He is a guy who always gets gun shy when he can't feel his way to the target, Fury used his superior reach and height expertly.

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            #15
            Originally posted by sunny31
            I don't think Wlad is shot by any stretch of the imagination, heavyweights are always able to last longer.

            He is in decline for sure, but still has some good fights left. If he faced guys like Povetkin right now, I have no doubt he would do the same thing to them. I think Wlad would have had problems with Fury at any stage of this career. He is a guy who always gets gun shy when he can't feel his way to the target, Fury used his superior reach and height expertly.
            Never thought about it like that before. Good analysis .

            Exactly how he fights. Wlad probably should have avoided Fury. He must have thought he was going to be shit like Wach.

            Makes me wonder about Valuev now too. That fight might have been more competitive than I'd have imagined before. There were times when Wlad basically had problems with the dimensions of Fury.

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            • muzzo
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              #16
              Yea he is 40 so he gonna look older but also he seems to be perma tanned and the sun is meant to age ur skin.... apart from that the only person that can beat tyson in this fight is himself i reckon,his to lose

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                #17
                Originally posted by Tyrone Biggums!
                Man his face is looking haggard.

                I think this rematch will be worse than the first for him

                Looks like a man on a mission.

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