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  • WesternChamp
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    #21
    Originally posted by mathed
    They cheated him bigtime. The one KD was a slip and they tried to give every round to Pac. HBO commentary was very biased, the fight was close....5-7 plus the 2 KD's, 1 of which was BS.

    Diaz is just bitter he is living in Bradley's shadow now, that's his claim to fame.
    smh... thought you were better than that. a slip? lol

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    • Liondw
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      #22
      It's kind of eye opening that, with Atlas as his trainer, Bradley did even worse than when he was with Diaz, against Pacquiao. He didn't get knocked down in those first two fights, and now he got knocked down twice. Not saying Tim could have won by trying to box from the outside, but at least he would have a better chance. But as someone else commented, Bradley is just a little above average. Thurman, Brook and Spence all beat Bradley easily.

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      • R-C
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        #23
        Originally posted by mathed
        They cheated him bigtime. The one KD was a slip and they tried to give every round to Pac. HBO commentary was very biased, the fight was close....5-7 plus the 2 KD's, 1 of which was BS.

        Diaz is just bitter he is living in Bradley's shadow now, that's his claim to fame.
        Question:

        What does HBO commentary have to with the judges decision?

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        • SugarRayCurtain
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          #24
          Actually thought that was Bradleys worst performance out of the 3
          Atleast in the 1st fight he won the later rounds and in the 2nd fight he won a lot of the early rounds with his agression. In the 3rd fight he was never in it, he just got completely outboxed despite being the one who tried to box.

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            #25
            Originally posted by WSSD
            a lot has to do with what pac was doing too. everyone likes to just say "if" bradley would of done this or that. there's a reason why he wasnt able to do any of that!
            good point,

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              #26
              Originally posted by mathed
              They cheated him bigtime. The one KD was a slip and they tried to give every round to Pac. HBO commentary was very biased, the fight was close....5-7 plus the 2 KD's, 1 of which was BS.

              Diaz is just bitter he is living in Bradley's shadow now, that's his claim to fame.
              It's no point trying to reason with people.

              I gave Bradley 5 rounds. Had the KD been properly ruled, it would have been a draw. It was close. People are biased because of the KDs doe

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              • Manic Shot
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                #27
                Fact: Manny beats Bradley 3X.
                Bradley vs Khan....

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by WSSD
                  a lot has to do with what pac was doing too. everyone likes to just say "if" bradley would of done this or that. there's a reason why he wasnt able to do any of that!
                  That's true, but if you truly dissect the 1st two fights, he had more over all success in them than he did in his last fight. In neither of the 1st two fights did you see Bradley just wait on Manny to react. That shows a total different fight plan. He rocked Manny in fights 2 and 3 because of aggression. Tim is not quick enough to play counter puncher against Manny, who is much quicker than him. It was a bad fight plan and Tim got frustrated early. You could see it all in his face and body language. Manny fights the same way every time out. So no, it wasn't completely what Manny was doing. It was simply not intelligent to think you can counter a fighter with Manny's gifts and attributes. The key for Bradley would be to fight Manny with aggression but do it intelligently. That's why Tim had success early in the 2nd fight. That fight was very close up until his injury. Now he's with Teddy and wants to box more. Well, that's good against an ordinary fighter. Manny is not ordinary.

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                  • jvsnypes
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by revelated
                    It's no point trying to reason with people.

                    I gave Bradley 5 rounds. Had the KD been properly ruled, it would have been a draw. It was close. People are biased because of the KDs doe
                    I totally agree. The HBO commentating was biased calling all 3 of their fights. All 3 fights were close. In no way is Manny miles ahead of Tim as far as ability. Tim just has been unfortunate to get injured in the 1st two fights and came with the wrong fight plan in the 3rd fight. None of that is Manny's fault though. So yes, Manny will go down as the better fighter. But Tim beats everyone else at 147. But the entire division needs to keep an eye on Spence. That's a fight Tim should stay away from. No need to hurt your legacy by fighting a young hungry lion coming up at this stage of Tim's career. He should make an attempt to fight Danny Garcia and the winner of Thurman vs Porter, and maybe Brook to become undisputed champion at 147. Then he needs to get out of the sport. Anything else is pointless.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Liondw
                      It's kind of eye opening that, with Atlas as his trainer, Bradley did even worse than when he was with Diaz, against Pacquiao. He didn't get knocked down in those first two fights, and now he got knocked down twice. Not saying Tim could have won by trying to box from the outside, but at least he would have a better chance. But as someone else commented, Bradley is just a little above average. Thurman, Brook and Spence all beat Bradley easily.
                      I don't see one fighter on Thurman or Brook's resume that supports that statement. But I will agree that Spence is a serious problem for any welterweight. I think Tim can outbox both Brook and Thurman plus has too much championship experience and heart in big fights. Spence is cut from a different cloth. We are about to see the 2nd coming of Ray Leonard with this kid.

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