Comments Thread For: Erislandy Lara Takes Rematch, Beats Vanes Martirosyan

[DoktorSleepless]

So would you like to attempt an answer? Or something else you're crying about?

Sorry, I'm off the clock right now and I don't get paid overtime.

[hitking]

I'll give you Floyd and Manny. Even though Floyd was American, which is extremely beneficial. Canelo, however was involved with the biggest PPV(at the time), before he headlined though, so i think that is a poor example.

Are you not interested in Jacobs or Saunders?

Not really. Those are the top guys in his division. But, Jacobs has been KO'd and was recently dropped by Sergio Mora. I'm not very optimistic about his giving GGG a fight. Saunders is a paper trinket holder that won a belt from Andy Lee. Andy Lee bruh. I wouldn't blast GGG for fighting them. But he definitely shouldn't be chasing them. Especially if he has a guy like Lara, who IMO is better than both and willing to fight him. Nobody's been able to beat him convincingly. He's got a boogymam reputation. And style-wise, its an interesting fight. Mover play into GGG's hands. But he's usually fighting guys that aren't natural mover. Ans are moving because they don't like what GGG is hitting them with. Lara is a natural mover that can do it dor 12rds. GGG gets a lotta credit for his ability to cut off the ring. Lara is the ultimate test for that.

[HeroBando]

Sorry, I'm off the clock right now and I don't get paid overtime.

Figures, all coy Lara style

[hitking]

To the star part, i put HUGE in caps for a very specific reason. Crossing the million buy mark is very rare, and i think it deserves a little extra something. If your doing a million buys your officially a cross over star. Everyone knows Mayweather and Pacquiao, but i'm sure there are people who don't know Canelo or Cotto. There are clearly levels.

I'm sure GGG would agree to 158, the same 2 lb drop Canelo agreed to with Floyd. Everyone plays hardball outside the negotiation room, but i'm sure GGG will make some weight concessions. Making 155 is not one of them tho, and rightfully so.

I don't see the issue with making 155, especially now. GGG has his belt. I'm sure Canelo eould do it non-title. He said he could make 154 for Floyd. And the consensus is that Canelo is bigger than GGG. So even if GGG is weakening himself, theoretically so is Canelo.

[Flash13]

Not really. Those are the top guys in his division. But, Jacobs has been KO'd and was recently dropped by Sergio Mora. I'm not very optimistic about his giving GGG a fight. Saunders is a paper trinket holder that won a belt from Andy Lee. Andy Lee bruh. I wouldn't blast GGG for fighting them. But he definitely shouldn't be chasing them. Especially if he has a guy like Lara, who IMO is better than both and willing to fight him. Nobody's been able to beat him convincingly. He's got a boogymam reputation. And style-wise, its an interesting fight. Mover play into GGG's hands. But he's usually fighting guys that aren't natural mover. Ans are moving because they don't like what GGG is hitting them with. Lara is a natural mover that can do it dor 12rds. GGG gets a lotta credit for his ability to cut off the ring. Lara is the ultimate test for that.

You're convinced Lara wants the fight, because he called out GGG? I remember very recently a fighter who called out GGG in the ring, and then vacated just a few weeks later..... All of Lara's actions up to this point suggest that he is all talk. This hypocrisy has been pointed out many times by Steve Kim on twitter. Well documented.

[Flash13]

I don't see the issue with making 155, especially now. GGG has his belt. I'm sure Canelo eould do it non-title. He said he could make 154 for Floyd. And the consensus is that Canelo is bigger than GGG. So even if GGG is weakening himself, theoretically so is Canelo.

You don't see the difference between a 25(who regularly comes down to 155) and a 34 year old(who's been 160 for forever now) cutting down a massive amount of weight?

[PensionKiller]

Translator sucks. He clearly said he'll fight "Canelo or Golovkin" and translator said "Canelo or anybody" and I know about a half percent of Spanish. WTF was that about?

Maybe he was nervous live in front of a big crowd or something or simply didn't know what GGG is

[JUNIABOY]

The quicker GGG, his team, and his fans learn that its about names on the resume and not belts, the quicker this dude might crossover. Floyd Mayweather never held all the belts in any division simultaneously. Hell, several of Manny Pacquiao's biggest fights had no belt on the line. Belts don't mean ****.

And once GGG critics realize that the names will come once the belts are assembled, the more sleep they'll get at night. You see that?....you see how I turned your argument right back on you? Tell me, how many named fighters are there left?~Canelo?...a guy that will continue to get blasted on social media until he fights GGG?~Cotto?...a guy who will never wanted to fight GGG?~Ward?...a guy who moved up 2 weight classes to pretty much block the bout from happening? What's left? What name is left? As a boxing fan, I can see how GGG made it this far...by doing it the right way & climbing up the rankings. As a boxing fan, I can't argue that a boxer needs names on their resume...but that same boxing fan knows that there aren't a ton of named fighters GGG can add to his resume unless any of them are brave enough for the challenge. Pretty much none of the smaller guys want a piece of him...except maybe Lara, who I'll believe really wants this fight when his team actually contacts GGG's team. All the guys at 160 have excuses, including Canelo. And the short of list of 168 guys who were interested said they'd only fight GGG at 168. So, really, what names are there for GGG to go after? You tell me.

[JUNIABOY]

You're convinced Lara wants the fight, because he called out GGG? I remember very recently a fighter who called out GGG in the ring, and then vacated just a few weeks later..... All of Lara's actions up to this point suggest that he is all talk. This hypocrisy has been pointed out many times by Steve Kim on twitter. Well documented.

Flash13, I'll give you another example of someone calling out GGG only to drum buzz for their name (or fight)...Kell Brook. Right before Brook fought Bizier, he called out GGG saying he wanted him at 160. Okay? Then, right after the fight, they asked him what boxers he would like to face next. He named Tim Bradley & Danny Garcia...I think he might've named Adrien Broner. But did he say Gennady Golovkin?...Nope.

[JUNIABOY]

By that ridiculous logic GGG should move up to 168 and earn a shot at Zurdo

You know full well that Jacobs just announced a fight (i think itll be in july or some bull) and BJS flat out said no to GGG. Eubank fights soon.

Go ahead..name someone good or recognizable thats available to fight in September when GGG is fighting. Using YOUR logic

Excuse us for the best 154 pound beltholder not being "good enough" somehow for GGG.

It's all "everybody is avoiding" until people say "hey..there's like one guy avoiding him..but a bunch of others trying to fight him? Why's he not fighting them? Isnt he avoided? He sounds like the opposite of avoided"

Actually, recently Billy Jo Saunders said Yes, yes he'd fight GGG. He changed his tune following the social media backlash. And if Eubanks is being sincere on his interest for the fight, he's another good option. Idk how that will play out with Jacobs if the WBA orders a mandatory fight for him...since his team announced his next fight to be at Barclays, would they have to cancel or would he be allowed to take this fight against a yet to be announced opponent. But Billy Jo is a good option...maybe the best option if the Canelo fight isn't made. It would make him undisputed if he wins against Billy Jo. Lara might be considered the best 154 boxer right now, but I prefer a show me example...show me how he's the best 154 fighter when he hasn't beaten any of the other 154 champs...Andrade? Charlo? Charlo? Liam Smith? Did he fight any of those guys?...then we don't know who the best 154 boxer is...hell, he even fought Canelo & didn't do enough to get a decision. That's the thing...you're arguing that he's the best 154 boxer, while I'm arguing that we don't know who the best jr MW is until they fight each other. You might argue that everyone is ducking Lara at 154, & i'll argue that every champ at 154 is ducking all other champs at 154. You can't convince me that isn't true. A sign of the times post-Mayweather era. If you were in GGG's shoes, which is the better option: the fight that will accomplish your dream, or a fight to just satisfy the critics?

BTW, Zurdo Ramirez is a strong option if neither of those 160 bouts are made. Plus, Arum has already been in contact with Loeffler about eventually making that fight happen. You're wasting your time trying to blast what GGG is doing. You know, there is 3 guaranteed ways to get a fight with GGG: be his mando, own a 160 belt, & be a big ppv draw. Did Lara try to make a fight with Billy Jo Saunders? Is Lara actively trying to climb up the rankings to become GGG's mando? Is Lara a ppv star? Well, then Lara is a distant option at this point. Don't get me wrong...I don't want GGG to duck anybody. Yet every critic has a new name that GGG should fight next or else they're a coward. Relax. Everyone needs to get in line.