Erislandy Lara vs. Gennady Golovkin

[j0zef]

I get that but k2 shouldn't have made the offer public. If they were willing to give BJS that much and are willing to take the loss fighters better than BJS will ask for the same and negotiate down.

It's ridiculous to think anyone would get that much for a fight not involving Floyd, Manny, canelo or a HWT champion.

I think you missed my point. They're willing to take a financial loss to get the last belt.

There's nobody else on the planet who's in the same situation. If someone else decides to ask for the same, they'll laugh in their face, and rightfully so.

BJS may get $5M. Lara will not get 2M.

[deathofaclown]

How is it BS when K2 offered Saunders about the same?

You can't have it both ways. Saunders is more of a draw then Lara but surely the fight will not generate enough for him to earn that amount, even in England.

Yeah, in England a lot of people would pay for tickets to see GGG fight actually, but the TV money isn't going to be there as BJS fights on BoxNation which is a subscription service which most people don't have.

So i'm very surprised BJS has been offered 3 million, if that's true then i suppose Golovkin's team think it's worth putting the money up to get that last belt. It's not a PPV fight in USA either, so i'm not sure where the money would be coming from considering that's more than GGG has been earning. It's alright wanting the belt but it's a business, nobody is going to willingly operate at a loss.

[The Big Dunn]

I think you missed my point. They're willing to take a financial loss to get the last belt.

There's nobody else on the planet who's in the same situation. If someone else decides to ask for the same, they'll laugh in their face, and rightfully so.

BJS may get $5M. Lara will not get 2M.

That isn't realistic j0zef. If they set the bar at $3 mil for BJS every fighter better than BJS is going to expect a similar purse.

[The Big Dunn]

Yeah, in England a lot of people would pay for tickets to see GGG fight actually, but the TV money isn't going to be there as BJS fights on BoxNation which is a subscription service which most people don't have.

So i'm very surprised BJS has been offered 3 million, if that's true then i suppose Golovkin's team think it's worth putting the money up to get that last belt. It's not a PPV fight in USA either, so i'm not sure where the money would be coming from considering that's more than GGG has been earning. It's alright wanting the belt but it's a business, nobody is going to willingly operate at a loss.

I get they want the belt but the BJS offer seemed very high.

[j0zef]

That isn't realistic j0zef. If they set the bar at $3 mil for BJS every fighter better than BJS is going to expect a similar purse.

Lol, that's completely and absolutely false. What does being 'better' have to do with your purses? Do you see Kovalev or Ward getting billions? Khan got 6M guarantee for Canelo while Lara got 1.5m. Is Khan better than Lara? There was a rumour that Golden Boy offered Golovkin a flat 3m for the Canelo fight. Is Khan twice as good as Golovkin?

Nobody's gonna expect a similar purse, and nobody's gonna get a similar purse. The ONLY person Golovkin is willing to take a financial loss on is WBO belt holder.

[The Big Dunn]

Lol, that's completely and absolutely false. What does being 'better' have to do with your purses? Do you see Kovalev or Ward getting billions? Khan got 6M guarantee for Canelo while Lara got 1.5m. Is Khan better than Lara? There was a rumour that Golden Boy offered Golovkin a flat 3m for the Canelo fight. Is Khan twice as good as Golovkin?

Nobody's gonna expect a similar purse, and nobody's gonna get a similar purse. The ONLY person Golovkin is willing to take a financial loss on is WBO belt holder.

Khan fought Canelo this year, Lara fought him 2 years ago when he wasn't the cash cow he is now.

I am not connecting better to purse size, you are over simplifying my post and missing the primary point.

BJS got offered $3 mil. Lara is asking for $3 mil. since K2 publicly announced that offer for BJS, fighters better than him are going to ask for the same purse going in. I agree they might not get it, but you can't blame Lara for asking for $3 mil when K2 set the bar at that sum for BJS knowing they would lose money.

[MDPopescu]

Yeah, in England a lot of people would pay for tickets to see GGG fight actually, but the TV money isn't going to be there as BJS fights on BoxNation which is a subscription service which most people don't have.

So i'm very surprised BJS has been offered 3 million, if that's true then i suppose Golovkin's team think it's worth putting the money up to get that last belt. It's not a PPV fight in USA either, so i'm not sure where the money would be coming from considering that's more than GGG has been earning. It's alright wanting the belt but it's a business, nobody is going to willingly operate at a loss.

Loeffler contemplated to make that fight at an U.K. stadium as venue... They thought that the U.K. fans would pay to watch their champion being dispatched by a Russian right on their "national soil"... Which is highly improbable.

[MDPopescu]

I am not connecting better to purse size, you are over simplifying my point.

Khan fought Canelo this year, Lara fought him 2 years ago when he wasn't the cash cow he is now.

BJS got offered $3 mil. Lara is asking for $3 mil. My pint is since K2 publicly announced they were willing to lose for BJS, fighters better than him are going to ask for the same purse going in. I agree they might not get it, but you can't blame Lara for asking for $3 mil when K2 set the bar at that sum for BJS.

Lama is free to ask for whatever purse he wants to...
But tell me: starting with which figure do you think that Lara is pricing himself out?

[Larry the boss]

GGG was begging for Floyd Cotto and Can'tNelo I didn't hear you clamoring for those fights to happen. Why should GGG fight a fawking JMW? Why? Because you think Lara can out run GGG then you can claim how he was robbed and he schooled GGG?

I said Cotto and Canelo should have fought him since they went to middleweight...and Lara is the best fight available for GGG

[Larry the boss]

I think there's a great reason it shouldn't happen - so Canelo can get that beatdown first.

Any particular reason you seem to not be in too big a hurry to see that fight?

Don't worry, I'll wait.

Canelo obviously doesnt want the fight now, so might as well move on..Lara wants it now