Is Canelo making 155 "comfortably"? Yes or no?

[Deevel916]

I ask because I've seen quite a few Canelo fans claim that he has no problem making 155 and he's doing so "comfortably" so why fight at the MW limit.

Personally I dont see how. How can a guy who enters the ring and walks around 175lbs+ lose 20lbs "comfortably"? How is that easier than cutting less weight to weigh in at around 158-160? Why cut more weight than you have to? I can't see any other benefit to it other than demanding catchweights in an attempt to drain fighters in your own division or to lure smaller fighters up.

[j0zef]

He doesn't look TOO bad during weigh ins, but he looks skeletal enough to ask the question. To me, one of the way you can look at it is look at his unofficial weights over the years.

2011 vs. Hatton: Official 151, Unofficial 165.
2012 vs. Mosley: 154 / 167
2013 vs. Trout: 153.5 / 172
2013 vs. Floyd: 152 / 167
2014 vs Angulo: 155 / 174
2014 vs. Lara: 155 / 171

We don't have weights for last 2 years, and because he has kept growing, we can comfortably assume his unofficial for the Khan fight was between 174-176. He's almost 26 now. I would assume that he has already plateaued or will plateau in a year or two. Let's just estimate that his fight night weight for the rest of his career will be 175.

That kind of rehydration points to a natural MW. Gaining 10-15 lbs is normal. 20 lbs is not. As another example of this, IBF has limits on the amount you can rehydrate which is 10%.

To summarize, I don't think he makes 155 comfortably. I think he's used to it and treats it as part of the business. I think he also recognizes that sort of games with your body may have serious ramifications later on. Because of that, I think Canelo will retire much earlier than most people expect him too - probably sometime around 32-33.

[boliodogs]

I am sure he is easily making that weight. It's his weight of choice. If he was uncomfortable making 155 then he would obviously choose a higher weight. What advantage could he possibly gain by insisting to fight at a weight he can't comfortably make? He has come in at 154.5 on a couple of his 155 weight limit fights.

[ИATAS]

He doesn't look TOO bad during weigh ins, but he looks skeletal enough to ask the question. To me, one of the way you can look at it is look at his unofficial weights over the years.

2011 vs. Hatton: Official 151, Unofficial 165.
2012 vs. Mosley: 154 / 167
2013 vs. Trout: 153.5 / 172
2013 vs. Floyd: 152 / 167
2014 vs Angulo: 155 / 174
2014 vs. Lara: 155 / 171

We don't have weights for last 2 years, and because he has kept growing, we can comfortably assume his unofficial for the Khan fight was between 174-176. He's almost 26 now. I would assume that he has already plateaued or will plateau in a year or two. Let's just estimate that his fight night weight for the rest of his career will be 175.

That kind of rehydration points to a natural MW. Gaining 10-15 lbs is normal. 20 lbs is not. As another example of this, IBF has limits on the amount you can rehydrate which is 10%.

The WBC supposedly has a rule you cannot rehydrate more than 10% of your body weight in title fights so I found it interesting there was no unofficial weight for the Khan fight. Surely the WBC would take their weights the day of the fight.

[Eff Pandas]

I think he's for sure using the current rules with weighing in to his best benefit in winning & avoiding certain fights. He's avoiding the best 154lbers & he's avoiding the best 160lbers. Its a genius move & a ***** move all at the same time. A very Oscar move.

I think he could make 154 with a minimal effort more + he could make 160 & be more comfortable.

I feel like the backlash on this dropping the belt situation could end up resulting in drama between Oscar & Canelo & eventually Canelo leaving Oscar.

[SeekDaGreat]

Seems like it. He's winning and getting KOs.

[DreamerUSA]

I think he's for sure using the current rules with weighing in to his best benefit in winning & avoiding certain fights. He's avoiding the best 154lbers & he's avoiding the best 160lbers. Its a genius move & a ***** move all at the same time. A very Oscar move.

I think he could make 154 with a minimal effort more + he could make 160 & be more comfortable.

I feel like the backlash on this dropping the belt situation could end up resulting in drama between Oscar & Canelo & eventually Canelo leaving Oscar.

Pretty much this. Him not making 154 is'nt because he can't, but because he does'nt want to. Interesting to see where he goes from here if he does'nt fight GGG.

[daggum]

Seems like it. He's winning and getting KOs.

yeah if he fights 2 of the guys with the worst chins in boxing he can get ko's. otherwise he looks mediocre with a very bad gas tank/work rate. maybe that's just the way he fights though.

[New England]

He doesn't look TOO bad during weigh ins, but he looks skeletal enough to ask the question. To me, one of the way you can look at it is look at his unofficial weights over the years.

2011 vs. Hatton: Official 151, Unofficial 165.
2012 vs. Mosley: 154 / 167
2013 vs. Trout: 153.5 / 172
2013 vs. Floyd: 152 / 167
2014 vs Angulo: 155 / 174
2014 vs. Lara: 155 / 171

We don't have weights for last 2 years, and because he has kept growing, we can comfortably assume his unofficial for the Khan fight was between 174-176. He's almost 26 now. I would assume that he has already plateaued or will plateau in a year or two. Let's just estimate that his fight night weight for the rest of his career will be 175.

That kind of rehydration points to a natural MW. Gaining 10-15 lbs is normal. 20 lbs is not. As another example of this, IBF has limits on the amount you can rehydrate which is 10%.

To summarize, I don't think he makes 155 comfortably. I think he's used to it and treats it as part of the business. I think he also recognizes that sort of games with your body may have serious ramifications later on. Because of that, I think Canelo will retire much earlier than most people expect him too - probably sometime around 32-33.

agree with most of the post, but even putting on 15 lbs is stretching the confines of what weight can be put on naturally in a 30ish hour period. that's 10% of his body weight at teh weigh in. when he puts on 20 lbs it means that he's putting on an additional five percent of his body weight. again, we're led to believe that this is done with fluids, electrolytes, and a few solid meals.


i'm not a world class boxer, but from what i can gather from those who are around them regularly, or looking at "rehydration" after the weigh in historically, i have a hard time believing that these guys are on the up and up.

walking around dangerously under weight for days, putting on 20 lbs in 30 hours, and then performing at a high level in a world class boxing match?

again, i have no proof that alvarez is dirty, but it really makes you wonder.


and yes, he's extremely drained at 155. his stomach and face are shrunken in, and his skin color and muscle tone vary drastically between the weigh in and the fight.

he's not at 155 because it's his optimal wieght. he's there so he can appear smaller than he is, and hold the MW championship hostage while he fights WWs and JMWS moving up.


alvarez' camp is doing the right thing for his earning potential by keepig him away from gennady golovkin. they're stretching his career out and building his brand by putting him in with smaller fighters. 600K ppv, which is what i'm led to believe they sold [somebody can correct me, i haven't been on boxingscene in months,] is absolutely fantastic money for a 25 year old kid matched again a no hoper.

it's awful for the sport, however, and any objective fan should fault alvarez' camp, and even canelo himself, for their handling of what has arguably the second most coveted title in the sport historically.

[j0zef]

The WBC supposedly has a rule you cannot rehydrate more than 10% of your body weight in title fights so I found it interesting there was no unofficial weight for the Khan fight. Surely the WBC would take their weights the day of the fight.

I'm 90% certain it's 10% of the division limit, not bodyweight. So in case of Canelo/Khan, unless WBC gave him a pass for some reason, he weighed less than 176.