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  • gully7
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    #101
    Originally posted by tiois85
    surely you jest?
    No, enlighten me on your opinion or stfu.

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    • FrankieBruno
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      #102
      Originally posted by gully7
      Don't you remember what happened in regards with the testing in the Porter fight? They delayed it as much as poss8ble blaming Hearn and Brook it was total BS, they got there first test about 4 weeks before the fight. Plus the cheats are always ahead of the testers.
      Porter didnt want testing because he wasnt willing to pay for it.

      Thats what happened. The fighters pay for the testing and it's not cheep.

      Porter was a tad su****ious to me (still is), but i can honestly say the same about Brook, i have my su****ions about both fighters.

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        #103
        Originally posted by gully7
        That happened ages ago, if Brook was taking something he would of been caught by now.
        Brook doesn't have VADA/WADA testing for all of his fights

        The one time he did have elite testing, he fought very average - against Porter

        With infrior testing you can get away with alot. You only have to look at Khan vs Peterson, the first fight had testing but it wasnt by VADA, and Peterson got away with steroids in his system

        but when they had Vada testing he got caught

        I don't think Brook would be ****** enough to jump on the gear when he knows vada testing will be undertaken.

        however when there is inferior testing, he might try his luck like many other fighters do

        but there are ways around tricking the vada testing system, using delays and masking agents, as long as you know what you are doing
        Last edited by FrankieBruno; 05-20-2016, 02:24 PM.

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          #104
          Originally posted by SnakeVen0m
          People are quickly discrediting or overlooking Vargas in this fight. I like both fighters but I think Jesse is very accurate and hits well enough to hurt Kell. This should be a very close fight. Hope it gets done!
          Do you think that brook will let Vargas punch much? Brook clinches whenever necessary.

          (They fight at Bramall Lane, in Sheffield -- Hearn is looking for more than 30,000 in attendance.)

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          • gully7
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            #105
            Originally posted by FrankieBruno
            Brook doesn't have VADA/WADA testing for all of his fights

            The one time he did have elite testing, he fought very average - against Porter

            With infrior testing you can get away with alot. You only have to look at Khan vs Peterson, the first fight had testing but it wasnt by VADA, and Peterson got away with steroids in his system

            but when they had Vada testing he got caught

            I don't think Brook would be ****** enough to jump on the gear when he knows vada testing will be undertaken.

            however when there is inferior testing, he might try his luck like many other fighters do
            Khan and Peterson only fought once.

            The UK testing is just as good as VADA as Barry found out amongst others.

            Brook didn't look bad against Porter it was just that Porter is a dirty fighter who bumrushes his opponents, its impossible to look good against him.

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              #106
              Originally posted by tiois85
              But that's the bar he has set, and will still probably call khan out saying look I got 2 belts now hahaha.
              let khan regroup. he just got ktfo

              he should go after Garcia or the winner of Porter-Thurman(i know they have to gave mosley v no name)

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              • FrankieBruno
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                #107
                Originally posted by gully7
                Khan and Peterson only fought once.

                The UK testing is just as good as VADA as Barry found out amongst others.

                Brook didn't look bad against Porter it was just that Porter is a dirty fighter who bumrushes his opponents, its impossible to look good against him.
                yes i know they only fought once

                i said first fight

                because there was a 2nd fight scheduled - when Peterson got caught out an came clean about his ped pallet usage and thus the fight was cancelled. He was on the gear even before he fought Khan, so he screwed a lot of boxers over.

                Angel Garcia also said there were delays during testing when they fought Peterson, so they also had their su****ions about him. The guy is dirty as dirty can get, not sure why anyone would want to fight him. You only have to look at his body to see he is on something

                Brook and Porter didnt impress me in that fight, both were at fault, Brook was overly clinching, and Porter was rushing in with his eyes closed throwing punches with no pattern.

                It was a messy fight with many inaccurate punches thrown. If Porter beats Thurman, and there is a rematch between him and Brook, i hope there is a better ref this time around
                Last edited by FrankieBruno; 05-20-2016, 02:44 PM.

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                • FrankieBruno
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by therealpugilist
                  let khan regroup. he just got ktfo

                  he should go after Garcia or the winner of Porter-Thurman(i know they have to gave mosley v no name)
                  No, Khan needs to take a step back and fight a Guerrero or some other C level boxer

                  Jumping in with Garcia after a knockout loss would not be a good idea. He needs to get a win for his confidence sake, and then he should consider his mando with Garcia or a fight with Broner or Brook

                  Khan deserves a good tune up fight after Canelo

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by FrankieBruno
                    No, Khan needs to take a step back and fight a Guerrero or some other C level boxer

                    Jumping in with Garcia after a knockout loss would not be a good idea. He needs to get a win for his confidence sake, and then he should consider his mando with Garcia or a fight with Broner or Brook

                    Khan deserves a good tune up fight after Canelo
                    Khan has always fought C level or aged boxers. Every time he stepped up in class he got beat

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                    • therealpugilist
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by FrankieBruno
                      No, Khan needs to take a step back and fight a Guerrero or some other C level boxer

                      Jumping in with Garcia after a knockout loss would not be a good idea. He needs to get a win for his confidence sake, and then he should consider his mando with Garcia or a fight with Broner or Brook

                      Khan deserves a good tune up fight after Canelo
                      i was saying that should be who brook goes after...not khan who got ktfo recently

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