Canelo is still Lineal/Ring champ at middleweight

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  • Tony Trick-Pony
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    #81
    Originally posted by larryxxx...
    So he still holds a lot of leverage,He dropped the WBC so he can demand fights at 155(b1tch move,YES) But now he doesnt have to back down from his stance anymore and if you want to fight him you have to come in at 155....(hilarious i know) But truth is if GGG wants that big fight he has to either move up or down point blank period....and if he wants the lineal title or Ring title he will have to dance to Canelo's tune
    This sounds like you are in favor of a champion acting like an ass and making demands of his challengers.

    I really can't respect that.

    If you are the champion, it is a great honor, but a great responsibility. To be the best, you fight the best and not always on your terms.

    Putting up these roadblocks on purpose is what keeps fights from happening.

    This is not an honorable tradition to keep going.

    Hagler gave up all kinds of concessions to Leonard. Should he have? Absolutely not. And it wouldn't be his fault. It would be Leonard's fault for acting like a girl and demanding those concessions. A real man would fight anybody, anytime, anywhere or simply retire, which would be respectable also.

    All this "I'm the man, so I get my way" sounds like the mindset of a child- not a real man to be respected and admired.

    By your own admission, this was a cowardly move and should be looked at that way. if you're middleweight champion, you fight at 160.

    Besides, who else is Canelo going to fight and actually sell big numbers on PPV?

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    • Beercules
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      #82
      Larry you dumbass

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      • Larry the boss
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        #83
        Originally posted by anthonydavid11
        This sounds like you are in favor of a champion acting like an ass and making demands of his challengers.

        I really can't respect that.

        If you are the champion, it is a great honor, but a great responsibility. To be the best, you fight the best and not always on your terms.

        Putting up these roadblocks on purpose is what keeps fights from happening.

        This is not an honorable tradition to keep going.

        Hagler gave up all kinds of concessions to Leonard. Should he have? Absolutely not. And it wouldn't be his fault. It would be Leonard's fault for acting like a girl and demanding those concessions. A real man would fight anybody, anytime, anywhere or simply retire, which would be respectable also.

        All this "I'm the man, so I get my way" sounds like the mindset of a child- not a real man to be respected and admired.

        By your own admission, this was a cowardly move and should be looked at that way. if you're middleweight champion, you fight at 160.

        Besides, who else is Canelo going to fight and actually sell big numbers on PPV?
        IN FAVOR????NO!!!!!!!!!!IT WAS A B1TCH MOVE!!!! just posting facts

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        • Larry the boss
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          #84
          Originally posted by Beercules
          Larry you dumbass
          Why am i a dumb ass?

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          • Tony Trick-Pony
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            #85
            Originally posted by larryxxx...
            IN FAVOR????NO!!!!!!!!!!IT WAS A B1TCH MOVE!!!! just posting facts
            Oh, you're saying that for Golovkin to get the fight, he would have to go to 155, but you're not in favor of that.

            Fair enough, man.

            I misunderstood.

            Yes, it was a weak move.

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              #86
              Canelo may be the lineal champion, but his stock will go down a lot because of this duck. The money was there, with Canelo's fan base and the hardcore/some casuals. Everything was there. I don't know what clever disagreement excuse they'll cook up to try to shift the blame on GGG, but this fight is not happening.

              I'm not even a big GGG fan, and I disagree with this. He deserves his shot, given the circumstances. With Cotto, the money simply wasn't there. His fan base isn't as big as Canelo's, so, to make good money, you needed another star. GGG just wasn't there yet. In Canelo's case, all the elements needed are present. His fan base would've carried the PPV, along with the hardcore fans, and I'm sure a decent amount of casuals. It would've made sense.

              In other words, Cotto had bigger fish to fry, Canelo doesn't. And, c'mon, the guy's 34. He deserves his shot. I knew it was all a lie, but, nooo, everyone wanted to turn away from Cotto because Canelo would certainly "dare to be great." I truly believe that Cotto, unless he had reason for a Mayweather or Canelo rematch, would've fought GGG. He would've dictated every detail, but he would've fought him by now.

              A horrible decision later, what now?

              Take that WBC and GoldenBoy.

              It backfired.

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                #87
                Originally posted by anthonydavid11
                Oh, you're saying that for Golovkin to get the fight, he would have to go to 155, but you're not in favor of that.

                Fair enough, man.

                I misunderstood.

                Yes, it was a weak move.
                yes thats all i am saying

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                • Tony Trick-Pony
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by larryxxx...
                  yes thats all i am saying
                  Totally agree, man.

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                    #89
                    Has Mexico ever had a fighter that has been so scared? I didn't believe that's even possible.

                    At first Cotto paid a million $ so he didn't have to fight GGG, now Canelo vacates the belt because he is so scared.

                    Who would have thought that a Kazakh fighter would do that to these so called proud fighters.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by larryxxx...
                      Why am i a dumb ass?
                      Canelo just ducked GGG

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