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  • #71
    Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post
    For GGG maybe but not boxing fans. We get to see GGG crush another can. I can't wait to see that for like the 34th time...This rate I don't expect to ever see ggg against a real opponent. Your really excited about this??? Because IM FKN NOT!!!
    How Canelo is treated after this will determine the future of boxing to be honest. If we turn off guys who refuse to step up and make it difficult for them to sell their next PPV then yeah I think a change will be made. However if he fights another smaller guy and does good PPV Numbers then the Male Diva stuff will continue and will get WORSE!

    So while use the fans want to play the VICTIM, we're actually to blame as well because we don't force these Promoters hands at all. A lot of them get away with BS and get away with selling us BS. People turned off Mayweather vs Berto and Pacquiao vs Bradley 3 both fights did **** numbers. Fans need to do that MORE to let the Promoters know that nobody is going to just order anything just because "Canelo Is Mexican" which is what Oscar and GBP are using to their advantage

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    • #72
      Originally posted by el*** View Post
      lol @ acting like this is a victory.

      GGG will just go on and fight another Wade for the WBC strap. Canelo-GGG aint getting made, which is what fans wanted. Neither is GGG-Ward, which is also what fans wanted.

      GGG will continue to fight cab drivers at 160 with his collection of trinkets. Canelo will probably go for Cotto 2 or whatever other meaningless money grab fight is out there.
      The fight wasn't happening but this the next best outcome. The worst champ in boxing surrenders the belt to the true champ, boxing wins

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      • #73
        Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
        how did mayweather school of thought do this? Mayweather only fought 2 catchweight fights his entire career.

        Thank DLH for following Arums blueprint. ODLH spent the better part of the 90s and his mid to early 20s fighting smaller former champions. Dude was a 5'10 junior lightweight/lightweight fighting little guys like troy dorsey(featherweight), Jorge Paez(featherweight titleholder) dwarfed Jesse James Leija and really wasnt fighting people his size until he got to welterweight in the late 90s
        This isn't about the catchweights. It's about all these fighters putting business before boxing and prolonging one's career.

        "I've set the model of showing fighters how they should conduct their business".

        "I haven't took no punishment. There's nothing cool about taking punishment".

        - Floyd Mayweather

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        • #74
          Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
          The fight wasn't happening but this the next best outcome. The worst champ in boxing surrenders the belt to the true champ, boxing wins

          Kid, you have stated on multiple occasions that if Canelo drops the belt, then Team Bull**** will be more than happy to fight him at 155.

          Now it looks like Hypekin will sneak out the back door - like he did with Ward - rather than man-up and fight.

          I have seen plenty of fighters dump their belt..... but not sure if I have ever seen a fighter walk away from his biggest possible payday?

          No, wait..... Pacquiao did, to avoid random blood tests.

          OK then, Golovkin will be the 2nd.

          Not sure what his reason is, I doubt that it has anything to do with blood tests..... I think the likely reason is that he is a hypejob who is not prepared to be a man of his word.

          They know that Golovkin cannot beat Canelo at 155, which is why they didn't simply fight him..... Team Bull**** were willing to consider a catchweight for Mayweather/Cotto/Brook, but not for Canelo LMAO..... just like they were willing to fight Froch/Chavez/Hopkins at 168, but not Ward

          Now they will break Hopkins record by defending the WBA INTERIM title, and without ever fighting a world-class opponent LMFAOOOOOO

          #teambull****,doingtheirthangLMAO

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          • #75
            Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post

            Now they will break Hopkins record by defending the WBA INTERIM title, and without ever fighting a world-class opponent LMFAOOOOOO
            GGG has beaten plenty of world-class opponents - a top10 fighter in the world at that weight class is world-class you dumb****

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            • #76
              Originally posted by buge View Post
              GGG has beaten plenty of world-class opponents - a top10 fighter in the world at that weight class is world-class you dumb****

              Not in my book, and in a lot of cases not even close.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
                This isn't about the catchweights. It's about all these fighters putting business before boxing and prolonging one's career.

                "I've set the model of showing fighters how they should conduct their business".

                "I haven't took no punishment. There's nothing cool about taking punishment".

                - Floyd Mayweather
                difference is mayweather fought at a high level consistently. What other fighter you know had a run in their career where they defeated 15 current former champions in a row? Also it was at the end of his career, past prime.

                sometimes a persons rep precedes them.

                Of course being defensively responsible prolonges your career. Boxing is hit and not get hit. I dont get why people think otherwise.

                there is nothing cool about taking punishment. When a fighters career is over, punch drunk and broke, are you or the people who were fans or haters going to help him survive, raise kids, maintain?

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                  Not in my book, and in a lot of cases not even close.
                  Martin Murray was top ten never beat anyone near top 20....same goes for stevens...this is one of the worst eras at middleweight in a long time.

                  anything to pump up his thin azz resume.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Chuckguy View Post
                    Beeotch please Can'tNelo should have said 160 and 70-30 split but he chose to beeotch out.
                    Nothing is in stone yet. ^I agree with the parameters of that deal!^

                    If that's the proposal and it doesn't happen, then I will concede that 'Nelo is ducking.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                      difference is mayweather fought at a high level consistently
                      I agree with you to a degree, but here's where it gets tricky.

                      At the end of 2007, FMJ was the #1 WW at 147 and just coming off a win over the #1 JWW in Ricky Hatton. But instead of fighting #1 Miguel Cotto or #2 Paul Williams, he opted to negotiate a rematch against DLH. When that fell through because no one wanted to see the matchup, he retired. Keep in mind, you had Cotto, Margarito, Williams, etc all waiting in the wings for a shot at FMJ. But instead of giving the public what they want which was Cotto, Marg or Williams, he tried to renegotiate a dud fight no one wanted to see again and were quite frankly upset at the way the first FMJ vs DLH played out. When that didn't happen, he was crying and retiring in result of the criticism and expectations..

                      Even before that, you know as well as I do, that Miguel Cotto was the tougher matchup between Cotto and Hatton. I don't really get caught up in the claims of "he ducked Margarito".

                      But either way, some people choose to believe that since Cotto never asked for the fight, that meant he deserved to not get the fight. Whatever you choose to believe isn't important because that's not the point.

                      The main point is so many fighters choose to take the Mayweather business school route, but they don't realize that Floyd had a hard time getting many fights early on in his career and had to earn the fame, glitz and glamour he ended up getting. So many fighters want to come in the game abiding by the Mayweather Business School rules and this is where I have a problem and why I think it's bad for boxing.

                      I also think that Mayweather's style, as effective as it was, it also bad for boxing from a perspective of giving the customer his/her money's worth. So many people feel ripped off by Mayweather after his fights because he says he's going to do one thing in the build up and goes out and does the opposite.

                      Floyd knows this and still chooses to keep his style over and over again. And then when people stop supporting him because of his style, he then uses the response of "Americans don't support their own, or they hate me because I'm black". No Floyd, they hate you because you pop the most schit leading up to the fight, then go out and dance and run around the ring.

                      This is a capitalistic society and if the customer feels jipped out their money, they won't support you anymore.
                      Last edited by Chollo Vista; 05-20-2016, 05:28 PM.

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