Why is VADA now all the sudden being questioned?

[The Big Dunn]

I disagree. His post is very relevant because he's showing the bias regarding the matter. VADA today is in the same identical position that USADA was in once upon a time and got criticized for.

One point was that why did USADA continue testing after Morales was found positive? Well today, VADA continues to test despite a positive result. And the irony is that it's happened this year with not just ONE fighter, but with TWO separate fighters. And one fight is going to happen regardless.

Very fair points right here.

[Larry the boss]

USADA/VADA etc don't have the power to stop fights going ahead. You've dragged the testing agency into a field they don't operate in, to try make a snide point.

You know this, yet you posted anyway. This is really why you posted: Larry likes Mayweather, Mayweather is associated with USADA, USADA is questioned by some, Larry doesn't like that, Larry goes on to post about VADA in an attempt to deflect the USADA criticism.

Playground type of stuff. Anyway, I bolded what you typed. Shouldn't we praising VADA for catching this cheat?

I know this but that never stopped posters from slamming USADA....that is exactly my point to be exact

[radioraheem]

Well Povetkin fans hate VADA now for obviously reasons but I would like to know why VADA SHOULDN'T BE QUESTIONED when Victor Conte is or was associated with it! VADA is also Independent as if it is no way they can't be corrupt as well?

They also just caught Francisco Vargas and let him go allowing to clear stuff out of his system so the fight can happen that is not being talked about much because everybody is focused on Povetkin but this Vargas situation looks REALLY BAD!

The problem isn't VADA, it's posters.

There are some posters that opined that a positive on a VADA test was indicative of cheating. They didn't ask for more information or questioned VADA protocols in any way when they caught other fighters.

Now that it is Povetkin there are a number of what I would say are credible, solid posters that have completely switched their opinions regarding VADA testing.

They are asking for more info, careful investigation and saying that the positive doesn't mean Povetkin was using. This is not right and those posters need to be called out.

Ding, ding, ding! These guys get it!

[OnePunch]

I dont have a dog in this fight because frankly I dont know the difference between VADA or USADA or whatever alphabet soup agency is being criticized.

What I AM curious about is when it comes to the "trace" amounts that were found in Povetkin. The thing I find interesting is that they say his previous 3 tests were clean. If thats accurate, then how could the newest one only have the 70 nanograms or whatever miniscule amount they claim? So were the first 3 tests compromised in some way? Was he dirty all along? Or did the first 3 tests just miss the "trace" amount? Alot of questions here, but if they can prove he took the stuff after Jan 1 then he should get at least a 1 year suspension, if not more......

[j0zef]

Only the idiots are questioning VADA. It's also the same idiots who fail to understand that VADA is strictly a testing agency. It's not their prerogative to suspect fighters or hand out any kind of punishment.

[bigdunny1]

Because this ain't got nothing to do with VADA. They did their job did the testing got the results. Now it's up the boxing agencies to decide what should happen what the penalties should be and whether he should lose his mandatory spot. All that is outside of VADA control. VADA didn't hide any tests or do anything corrupt like the allegations aimed at USADA over the Mayweather fiasco.

[techliam]

I disagree. His post is very relevant because he's showing the bias regarding the matter. VADA today is in the same identical position that USADA was in once upon a time and got criticized for.

One point was that why did USADA continue testing after Morales was found positive? Well today, VADA continues to test despite a positive result. And the irony is that it's happened this year with not just ONE fighter, but with TWO separate fighters. And one fight is going to happen regardless.

VADA and USADA aren't or weren't in any position, they did their jobs.

But if you aren't happy enough knowing you're right, go ahead. Like I said, playground stuff.

[Larry the boss]

i disagree. His post is very relevant because he's showing the bias regarding the matter. Vada today is in the same identical position that usada was in once upon a time and got criticized for.

One point was that why did usada continue testing after morales was found positive? Well today, vada continues to test despite a positive result. And the irony is that it's happened this year with not just one fighter, but with two separate fighters. And one fight is going to happen regardless.

^^^^^^this,this,this.............exactly my point

[HWChampion]

We should, but that hasn't been what we have seen from many posters and that is a huge problem.

We've also seen people blaming Wilder for the fight not happening. That is preposterous.

And yet you take it as ****ing gospel..... have you not thought, hmmmmm this guy just made an illogical point about wilder... I should ignore him because he's overtly a troll. But no, Instead 30 pages of garbage is created watch grown azz men bicker. Im 21, and i have never seen such grown men act like children. Im gobsmacked.

[radioraheem]

I dont have a dog in this fight because frankly I dont know the difference between VADA or USADA or whatever alphabet soup agency is being criticized.

What I AM curious about is when it comes to the "trace" amounts that were found in Povetkin. The thing I find interesting is that they say his previous 3 tests were clean. If thats accurate, then how could the newest one only have the 70 nanograms or whatever miniscule amount they claim? So were the first 3 tests compromised in some way? Was he dirty all along? Or did the first 3 tests just miss the "trace" amount? Alot of questions here, but if they can prove he took the stuff after Jan 1 then he should get at least a 1 year suspension, if not more......

Here's another sad thing about the Povetkin situation. Andre Berto was caught with TRACE amounts too! And even VADA went on record that it was probably due to a contaminated supplement rather than him trying to purposefully cheat.

But up til today, Berto is labeled as a cheat. But Mr. Povetkin is getting a pass. Interesting.