Comments Thread For: Wilder's Manager: We Are Devastated, Povetkin Lied To Us

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  • danceswithfire
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    #21
    and people said deontay was scared. traveling outside US when he's the bigger name and the champion is ultimate proof of having huge juevos. theres wilder then we have canelita on the opposite end of fighter mentality

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    • CmdrSoCal
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      #22
      Wilder Ducked = More Waste of Time Fights

      What BS. Wilders team are throwing a party, now back to the USA for more lopsided crap fights. Povetkin wins by KO. Povetkin has at least as good a chin as Duhaupas but with much better offense, Duhaupas has weak offensive and Wilder got beat up and never scored a knock down verse the french punching bag. If Wilders camp thought .00007 nanograms of pharma would have made the difference then Wilder was going to lose anyway. Drug testing is 100% BS also it can be corrupted a thousand ways or just plain wrong.

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      • alexKO
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        #23
        Originally posted by BattlingNelson
        I am kind of devastated. Povetkin was one of my fav fighters and now it appears as if his recent run is built on performance enhancers. Phuck u sasha!
        Sorry to break it to you mate, but many of your current favourite fighters will be on gear. The sad reality is that talent and hard work only gets you so far - add gear and you're going next level.

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        • Slick_Rick
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          #24
          Originally posted by alexKO
          Please explain how there was no trace in his system on April 8, April 9 or April 11 but it appeared in his system on April 27. I'm struggling here.
          Firstly there is no official report from VADA.

          Secondly we have no idea the tests carried out, what day were for urine and blood. For example cannabis shows up in your blood for upto 2 week and 30 days in your urine. There can be a greater variation depending on the drug, the dosage and the length of time used

          Thirdly, why do drugs not show up in the A sample but do on the B sample or vice versa?

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            #25
            Originally posted by CmdrSoCal
            What BS. Wilders team are throwing a party, now back to the USA for more lopsided crap fights. Povetkin wins by KO. Povetkin has at least as good a chin as Duhaupas but with much better offense, Duhaupas has weak offensive and Wilder got beat up and never scored a knock down verse the french punching bag. If Wilders camp thought .00007 nanograms of pharma would have made the difference then Wilder was going to lose anyway. Drug testing is 100% BS also it can be corrupted a thousand ways or just plain wrong.
            Dude. Stfu. Povetkin cheated.

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              #26
              Originally posted by alexKO
              Sorry to break it to you mate, but many of your current favourite fighters will be on gear. The sad reality is that talent and hard work only gets you so far - add gear and you're going next level.
              I am not naive.

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              • alexKO
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                #27
                Originally posted by Slick_Rick
                Firstly there is no official report from VADA.

                Secondly we have no idea the tests carried out, what day were for urine and blood. For example cannabis shows up in your blood for upto 2 week and 30 days in your urine. There can be a greater variation depending on the drug, the dosage and the length of time used

                Thirdly, why do drugs not show up in the A sample but do on the B sample or vice versa?
                Assuming the same tests were carried out, there's no defence. There may be occasional anomalies between A and B samples but you're clutching at straws with 3 A samples all oming up negative.

                The earlier you face the truth, the better for your mental wellbeing: Povetkin and many top fighters are on gear.

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                • LOCOMEX89
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                  #28
                  This fight should be canceled. Wilder should get at least half of his purse that was owed to him.
                  Povetkin should be suspended and completely dropped from the rankings.
                  Wilder should be allowed one voluntary. Then fight the winner of Klitchko/Fury or Ortiz.

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                  • hhs661
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by ///
                    Not at all. Negative to 70 nanograms is more indicative of a residual detection than anything else. If he took it recently the detection would be above WADA's theshhold and it isn't.

                    The "PED expert" who said it proves Povetkin took it recently was... Lou DiBella.

                    WADA said no such thing. They said the fight was too soon to do further testing and clear him. That's it. Lou DiBella the con artist filled in the blanks.

                    Fishy stuff. Hopefully Povetkin eventually gets his revenge. We should also get the testing out of Nevada. I don't trust these slimy bastards.
                    You don't know what the detection would be above. They passed three tests. For all you know, he could've tried and snuck it in between, but only for a certain amount. The thing is though, you don't know. Acting like what the detection would be if he took it after those three tests or before is childish on your part. But I get it, you're attempting to ruffle some feathers.

                    You're trying your darndest to change the chain of events but you simply can not. And no Wada didn't say it was too soon. This is exactly what they said...


                    "This letter is to advise you that the 'A' sample urine specimen number 3969608 collected from Alexander Povetkin on April 27, 2016 in Chekhov, Russia through his participation in the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA) program has been analyzed for anabolic agents, diuretics, beta-2 agonists, stimulants and drugs of abuse," Goodman wrote. "The results of the analysis are as follows: Adverse. Urine specimen contains meldonium."

                    "Mr. Povetkin has the right to promptly request analysis of the 'B' sample at his expense,"

                    And from what I've been seeing.. Povetkin, Ryabinsky or anyone else involved with that team hasn't dished out the funds to get that B Sample tested... That there, my troll, is very fishy

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                    • Slick_Rick
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by alexKO
                      Assuming the same tests were carried out, there's no defence. There may be occasional anomalies between A and B samples but you're clutching at straws with 3 A samples all oming up negative.

                      The earlier you face the truth, the better for your mental wellbeing: Povetkin and many top fighters are on gear.

                      We already know hes on it, but "it" became only illegal from the 1st Jan 2016.

                      I mean blood doping stated from the 1950's but only became illegal from the 1980's.

                      There will be something, someone is taking now, that is deemed perfectly legal, but in a year or so might not be...

                      You might want to read this: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-sp...-idUSKCN0WN1FS

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