Comments Thread For: Povetkin Tests Positive For Meldonium, Wilder Title Off

[Banderivets]

So what if athletes are on daily *****? If they get caught it becomes a discussion, that's what life is about so grow up a bit mate, no one is claiming it's a PED stop diverting the issue or my comments here.

Again why were they using this drug? It was suppose to be a medication for a severe heart condition, no one claim it was minerals or vitamin. I don't give a shet about Wilder and am still hoping Povetkin takes his head off. But am calling it like I see it.

why use the drug in the first place when you have NO heart condition.... That's the answers that I want to hear.

I don't get it.

Because its a PED, thats why he used it? Because it was a legal PED?

There are many PEDs that are legal that are used all the time. CREATINE is a performance enhancing substance its legal. Does that make taking it a bad thing?

You can make an argument that poping a multivatmin is PED, you can say that having steak and rice is PED, because if you didn't your athletic performance would not be as good.

[Kagami Taiga]

Is it confirmed VADA/WADA only considers this a positive result if its 1.0 micrograms? If so good point. I musta missed or overlooked that in this now lengthy thread if it was already posted.

http://www.boxingscene.com/povetkins...ograms--104547

This guy lays out the guidelines and according to him, after March 1st, anything Over 1 mg is a positive. So VADA either really ****ed up or Ryabinsky isn't telling the truth. I doubt VADA would announce a positive if it was under the allowed limit. But I guess we will have to wait and see the documentation.

[ShoulderRoll]

All athletes at a high level are juicing get used to it.

That's not a fair statement. There are athletes like Wilder who voluntary submit themselves to VADA testing and don't come up dirty.

They should NOT be placed in the same category as athletes who are proven to be using banned substances.

[Pigeons]

I really don't get how some people can just be blinded by nationality pride. When you are wrong you are wrong, these athletes are basically cheating period!!!

It's not even nationality, most of the mother ****ers are on some race ****. I'm a pale white mother ****er, but I can call a spade a spade. These b*tches act houlier than thou when the "other" side ****s up, but when the ball is in their court they are either absent or pull excuses out of the deep recesses of their anus.

[j0zef]

Is it confirmed VADA/WADA only considers this a positive result if its 1.0 micrograms? If so good point. I musta missed or overlooked that in this now lengthy thread if it was already posted.

No. People are just too lazy or ****** to read the information.

In early April WADA said that for any testing done on March 1st or prior they will excuse up to 1 microgram of Meldonium, because that is the maximum amount they believe can 'last' in the system if it was taken in 2015 (when it was legal).

There have not been any concrete studies done regarding the actual length of time the drug remains in the system. The manufacturer said 'several months'. WADA was the one who studied the results and established the 1microgram @ March 1st rule.

The promoters' point is that the amount detected, 0.07 micrograms, probably falls in the same timeline as established by WADA for March. He basically wants WADA to confirm that this is legitimately what remains from the 2015 intake. It's up to WADA or WBC to confirm, since I believe this is the first recent (May) athlete that showed this small amount of Meldonium.

[Ray*]

I don't get it.

Because its a PED, thats why he used it? Because it was a legal PED?

There are many PEDs that are legal that are used all the time. CREATINE is a performance enhancing substance its legal. Does that make taking it a bad thing?

You can make an argument that poping a multivatmin is PED, you can say that having steak and rice is PED, because if you didn't your athletic performance would not be as good.

Again no one is calling it a PED, you are trying to be clever by diverting the main issue here, why are they using a drug that is meant to be use to treat a heart defect? Answer that first and your mind would be free.

[Banderivets]

Oh shut the **** up man. The only reason he was using that drug was to enhance his performance. Open you ****ing eyes you biased c*nt.

Everyone ****ing ******ed in here or what?

I smash carbs all day because it helps my clean and jerk, I'm taking it because it enhances my performance.

I take creatine and protein shakes because they enhance my performance.

I TRAIN because it enhances my performance.

WTF are we arguing here?

[bojangles1987]

Boxing just cannot be good to us, can it? ****ing damn it.

[Ray*]

It's not even nationality, most of the mother ****ers are on some race ****. I'm a pale white mother ****er, but I can call a spade a spade. These b*tches act houlier than thou when the "other" side ****s up, but when the ball is in their court they are either absent or pull excuses out of the deep recesses of their anus.

Well so far most of them are trying to divert the whole issue, at the end of the day you don't use a drug that is advertise as a treatment for heart condition for something else lol, it's amazing how people can't be just straight up. I can back a fighter and still call him out when I need to..... Really can't get my head around it.

[BoxingFan85]

yes. Ortiz would give all HW hell thou.

Well yeah he has style to cause some problems to all big contenders, but his lack of defense and ring generalship will leave him wanting against the top guys.. Plus he hasn't gone past 8 rounds so we don't know if he has a good engine on him.. Too much uncertain and isn't battle tested..