Comments Thread For: Canelo-Khan PPV Buys: Multiple Sources Point To 460,000

[-Kev-]

Kev, thats what I think..... if it's on PPV Ward/Kovalev will likely do 200k.

So Golovkins numbers with unknown Lemieux are rpobably not too bad.

I dunno.

But yea, no way does Ward/Kovalev do 450-500 like Canelo/Khan..... which is fkn insane considering that fight was bit of a mismatch and yet Ward/Kovalev will be epic.

I will never figure that stuff out, I still don't understand how Mayweather became so famous.

It could have something to do with who the fans relate to most

Obviously with Canelo that's just a Mexican fanbase thing, Canelo is just admired by fans, no matter what anyone says on here about Canelo being hated, I don't think that's true. I think fans love Canelo, his fighting style, his looks, demeanor and his poise

Mayweather had a 'idgaf about boxing, give me the money fights' attitude and people either loved this or hated it

With Ward, who can relate to him? He's like the perfect guy, perfect personality, politically correct, his replies are honest, only talks down to other fighters when he gets rattled by them, etc. And fans still don't really like him like you'd think an undefeated guy who won Olympic Gold, and has a great personality and fought the best, should be loved...it's cause none of these *******s can relate to him. Have you seen the makeup of boxing fans? They're not exactly stand up citizens if Boxingscene is any indication of the boxing fanbase

So who can relate to him?

[The plunger man]

lol didnt golovkin sell only 150K lol and you say he is more popular. moron.

Who said golovkins more popular you goon lol.....I said over here in the uk most people know triple GGG as they do canelo...so learn how to comprehend a sentence, canelo would not have made the papers over here last weekend if he was not fighting Khan ....so the argument is that canelo is not the superstar of boxing as stated by old coke head Oscar ...the US is a different story but then again 18% percent of the entire population of America is Hispanic ..that's 55 million so it stands to reason he's gonna have a bigger following than a guy who lives in a country most Americans cannot pinpoint on a world map...... Wow 460k ppv out of 55 million is massive numbers don't you think GTFOH ...moron lol

[Nightfall]

neither of these chumps can sell. alvared better not duck lil g. if he fights anybody else his numbers will drop even more. low-standards.com

[redmyth79]

Oscar and his lies. Never trust a drug addict.

Lol say what you want but find any better numbers from anybody right now.
450 is profit. Its not 4.4 million but that was once in a lifetime and the fact that floyds numbers for many fights were that or below.

Now oscar on the other hand probably averaged more #s then floyd any given day.
Thought his legacy.
Oscar always fought the best and think he beat most getting high lol. Imagine if he took his career as serious as he dhold have. Always up for the challenge.
Now Canelo is following his promoter
He is now.
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[STREET CLEANER]

Really ?

I know nothing about PPV numbers and such, but aren't those figures basically the same as Pac/Rios, and I think Algieri, which were considered a flop?

I would say that GBP are disappointed with those numbers, they seem low?

I guessed 500-600k.

Fk'd if I know.

Neither is a superstar like Floyd or Pac at his height of his career. It was a junkie circus fight that nobody was clamming for so it sold more than what I expected.

These two guys were not on a collision course. It was a fight between 2 popular fighters

[Nubia]

Not bad at all.

[The plunger man]

toilet-man.....

What kind of person would mistake honesty for flip-flopping ?

You silly clown, do you think that I should " keep the faith ", and frantically wave my pom-pom's for Canelo..... like you asshat's do for Golovkin ?

It's called keeping it real son.

I commented on what I saw, not on what I wanted to see.

When you grow up, you will understand..... hopefully.

I don't know **** about PPV/TV numbers, and I don't really want to know..... I simply commented on what I saw.

It appears that Cotto is still a huge draw..... it appears that Canelo is not quite a superstar, yet..... and it appears that Golovkin's 97k/150k - whatever - , against a complete unknown, is not quite as bad as stated and likely cannot be called a flop.

Sorry if keeping it real goes against every fibre of your being.

BTW, thanks for inadvertently complimenting me on my honesty..... and btw again, I gave the same honest opinion that I always give regarding Golovkin.

Well it was u always harping on about the A side and canelo can do this canelo can do that...and if golovkin wants this fight he has to take the 155 catchweight ..well now it's been proven no he don't have to accept the catchweight ...canelo is a big name of course but he's not a global icon like mayweather or pacquaio and I always knew that you was wrong and be man about and accept your wrong....look we can argue till were old and past it but the bottom line is ....ppv is a dead fish in terms of really high numbers now..catch weights are killing it..over the top purses are killing it and I do think the biggest fight of the century has a lot to answer for and the poor numbers we are seeing now is a direct result of that fight and I will say this 250 million for mayweather and 100 million for pacquaio has litterally ****** the sport dry....no fighter should ever get that amount of money ..it's far too much and it's hurt boxing far more than people realise...we can have normal adult discussions because I feel strongly about this

[Pigeons]

460k for the fights you mentioned would be like May vs Pac numbers in relation to who those guys are countrywide or internationally

Crawford-Postol if they get even the infamous 97k, that would be amazing imo, they are pretty much unknown

Ward-Kovalev I would see 150-200k as a great number since neither have been on PPV and they are only relatively popular. 460k would be beyond great, I imagine that would make a massive amount of profit for that card

460-500k is what guys like Trinidad was doing in his prime vs Vargas, Joppy, Hopkins, Mayorga, Winky, Jones. So that's not bad

Trinidad-DLH 1.4 m
Trinidad-Vargas 560k
Trinidad-Joppy 520k
Trinidad-B-Hop 475k
Trinidad-Wright 510k
Trinidad-Mayorga 470k
Trinidad-Jones 500k

Canelo's PPV power by himself is very comparable to Trinidad's PPV power. While Trinidad was more consistent 470-510k seller, Canelo has ranged from 300k to 2.2 million. Mayweather was to Canelo what DLH was to Trinidad. Trinidad has nothing to compare Canelo vs Cotto's 900k. But let's face it 460k for Khan, like who's Khan really? Joppy was in a much better position than Khan, more highly thought of, MW champion, legit ranked as #2 MW behind B-Hop because he was actually better than the other MW's unlike Khan who's ranked #2 at WW which makes no sense since he has 0 wins versus any of those WW's. So to do 460k with a guy like Khan, i'm not saying it's great, i'm just saying it's not terrible. Great to me would have been 600-650k

The things is Canelo has already faced the "names" in and around his weight class. 2.2M vs. Mayweather and 900K (or 600K?) vs. Cotto, both as the B-side. As the A-side, who is there for him to reach big numbers with besides Golovkin? That one might do 900K (or 600K?), but outside of Golovkin, Khan was one of the best B-sides in or around Canelo's weight class, and he only pulled 460K. That's not good IMO. The guy is not gonna command $10-20M dollar paydays pulling 400-500K buys.

[Pigeons]

What's terrible is that there is not a single boxer who could do better numbers in the U.S. right now.

Not unless Floyd comes out of retirement.

That's a completely different argument altogether. It speak to 1) the absolute ****hole boxing currently resides in in this county and 2) the ludicrous premise that I must pay $60-70 to watch two guys fight each other when HBO and SHO already cost $10-20/month each.

[The plunger man]

Amir Khan stood to make 12 million dollars for this fight if ppv number were up to 900k.... Now the question we all need to ask is this...Khan has done absolutely nothing for the past few years, avoided tough fights and boxers who could punch, been knocked out on 2 occasions and struggled with club fighters and yet he managed to talk himself into ppv event and he still was gonna make that kind of money ..and we wonder why boxing is fading and people are deserting boxing...PPV is dead fish