Any word of the Canelo-Khan ppv numbers?

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  • Tomjas
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    #131
    Originally posted by OnePunch
    Steve Kim also tweeted that from 2016 forward HBO will not be releasing ppv numbers for ANY events, that they will leave that to the promoters..........

    which makes perfect sense, because as a publicly traded company, misstating earnings is a big no-no.......
    If anything, as a public company, HBO's parent should be controlling the release of PPV numbers as it is potentially price sensitive info.

    Can you imagine leaving it in Oscar's hands?

    I seriously doubt that he will say it has under-performed and particularly when he is allegedly negotiating with K2 as his whole schtick is "A side doe."

    He is far more likely to inflate the numbers which, in turn, could potentially mislead the investment market

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    • Aztekkas
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      #132
      Originally posted by -Kev-
      Flopul "Flopelo" Floparez vs Gefloppy "Triple Flop" Flopovkin should now be made

      Their last PPV's both flopped, next logical fight is versus each other
      @ Gefloppy

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        #133
        300K is absolutely atrocious. Mayweather did over 400K vs. Andre ****ing Berto.

        Boxing has no face.

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        • OnePunch
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          #134
          Originally posted by Tomjas
          If anything, as a public company, HBO's parent should be controlling the release of PPV numbers as it is potentially price sensitive info.

          Can you imagine leaving it in Oscar's hands?

          I seriously doubt that he will say it has under-performed and particularly when he is allegedly negotiating with K2 as his whole schtick is "A side doe."

          He is far more likely to inflate the numbers which, in turn, could potentially mislead the investment market
          and also dont forget each PPV is different as to what was negotiated for the network. Were they offering the promoter a certain number of guaranteed buys? Were they taking 4%, 5%, or 7% in fees? How much of the pre-fight production costs were they eating vs. what the promoter was paying?

          Even knowing the total number of buys doesnt necessarily tell you how much profit (if any) HBO made on the fight..........

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            #135
            Originally posted by -Kev-
            Flopul "Flopelo" Floparez vs Gefloppy "Triple Flop" Flopovkin should now be made

            Their last PPV's both flopped, next logical fight is versus each other

            Lmao......

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            • Tomjas
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              #136
              Originally posted by OnePunch
              and also dont forget each PPV is different as to what was negotiated for the network. Were they offering the promoter a certain number of guaranteed buys? Were they taking 4%, 5%, or 7% in fees? How much of the pre-fight production costs were they eating vs. what the promoter was paying?

              Even knowing the total number of buys doesnt necessarily tell you how much profit (if any) HBO made on the fight..........
              Agreed

              As an example, I watched it for free as a result of some giveaway by my service provider and I have no doubt that will be recorded as a "buy" in exactly the same way as a free ticket counts towards attendance

              All I'm saying is that the last person that I would have telling the market is a salesman with a vested interest in pumping up the numbers

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                #137
                Originally posted by Tomjas
                If anything, as a public company, HBO's parent should be controlling the release of PPV numbers as it is potentially price sensitive info.

                Can you imagine leaving it in Oscar's hands?

                I seriously doubt that he will say it has under-performed and particularly when he is allegedly negotiating with K2 as his whole schtick is "A side doe."

                He is far more likely to inflate the numbers which, in turn, could potentially mislead the investment market
                Even if it only did 300,000 buys that's still double Golovkin's 150,000 (assuming that is the correct number and not 97k.)

                Canelo remains the A-side in these negotiations.

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                • OnePunch
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                  #138
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                  Even if it only did 300,000 buys that's still double Golovkin's 150,000 (assuming that is the correct number and not 97k.)

                  Canelo remains the A-side in these negotiations.
                  keep beating your chest, but the fact remains that the ppv seems to have done about a third of what all the big mouths were saying last week.

                  So maybe your boy isnt as much of an "a-side doe" as you'd like to think. Granted, he's still a bigger draw, but the "ggg should accept 90-10 split at 155 cause he's b-side doe lalalajajajaaa" nonsense is over

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                  • j0zef
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                    Even if it only did 300,000 buys that's still double Golovkin's 150,000 (assuming that is the correct number and not 97k.)

                    Canelo remains the A-side in these negotiations.
                    Except people with a quarter of the brain realize how finances work.

                    Lemieux fight paid all fighters on the card a total of $4M, and the event was hailed as a financial success. Canelo/Khan, on the other hand, were guaranteed $16M, without even accounting for PPV share or undercards. If the 330k buys is the correct number, it was a massive, massive flop that cost the promoters millions.

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                      #140
                      Rafael to the rescue.......



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