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  • Irony123
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    #21
    Originally posted by larryxxx...
    name your price
    5,023,373,179,396,312,064.00 all my points go big or go home right... even though its just a minor drop in the big pool of Larry points.

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    • about.thousands
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      #22
      With Pac winning the election Top Rank has ZERO stars left. When was the last time TR has been in this position? Mayweather Promotions and Warriors boxing have a better stable than Top Rank

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        #23
        Originally posted by larryxxx...
        I know, so why look to fight a 160 fighter??? look up to 175 if you want to fight someone from another division.hell call out the winner of Ward-Kovalev or Stevenson
        But then why would Ward or Kovalev look down instead of up? There are good cruiserweights to fight

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          #24
          Originally posted by FrankieClutch
          But then why would Ward or Kovalev look down instead of up? There are good cruiserweights to fight
          CW is a much bigger jump man..thats 25 pounds

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            #25
            Theres nothing more to prove at 160 if he beats Canelo

            I guess theres the WBO belt, but no-one really cares about it. I wouldn't be mad at Glolovkin-Saunders really

            A move up to 168 after either Canelo/Saunders its really all thats left. 168 isn't that much better than 160 in terms of talent, but Golovkin would be at a severe handicap (being massively undersized)

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              #26
              Originally posted by about.thousands
              With Pac winning the election Top Rank has ZERO stars left. When was the last time TR has been in this position? Mayweather Promotions and Warriors boxing have a better stable than Top Rank
              I disagree. Not fighting is best for Manny right now. Manny has tremendous value as the B side to either Floyd or Canelo. He also has value as the "a side step up" for Crawford or Verdejo. He also could try and convince JMM (maybe Cotto but I doubt it) for 1 more fight, maybe in Mexico, which would be huge.
              Last edited by The Big Dunn; 05-11-2016, 10:35 AM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by larryxxx...
                CW is a much bigger jump man..thats 25 pounds
                I'm just pointing out the fault in your way of thinking. If fighters only looked up, there would be no fights between fighters that are looking to move up

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by techliam
                  Theres nothing more to prove at 160 if he beats Canelo

                  I guess theres the WBO belt, but no-one really cares about it. I wouldn't be mad at Glolovkin-Saunders really

                  A move up to 168 after either Canelo/Saunders its really all thats left. 168 isn't that much better than 160 in terms of talent, but Golovkin would be at a severe handicap (being massively undersized)
                  its actually bizzare at how big the size difference between middleweights and SMW... until the SMW division you rarely see such big size differences.

                  for example top SMWs are as following

                  Gilberto Ramirez 6′ 2½″ /// 75″ reach
                  James DeGale 6′ 0″ /// 74″ reach
                  Callum Smith 6′ 3″ (reach not on boxrec but probably 75" plus)
                  Badou Jack 6′ 1″ ////73″ reach

                  now you go to MW
                  Gennady Golovkin 5′ 10½″ /// 70″ reach
                  Saul Alvarez 5′ 9″ /// 70½″ reach
                  BJS 5′ 11″///( reach not on boxrec but likely around the 70" plus inch mark?)
                  Daniel Jacobs 6′ 0″ /// 73″ reach

                  (aside from DJ everyone is pretty much dwarfed by 3-5 inches)

                  funny enough you go to SWW and they are similar in size if not bigger then the MWs... but cut a lot of weight or just have very lean body messes.

                  Erislandy Lara 5′ 9″ /// 74″ reach
                  Jermell Charlo 5′ 11″ /// 73″ reach
                  Jermall Charlo 6′ 0″ /// 73½″ reach
                  Demetrius Andrade 6′ 1″ /// reach not on boxrec (probably 72"+

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by larryxxx...
                    CW is a much bigger jump man..thats 25 pounds
                    unless you subscribe to the Canelo platform, in which case cruiserweight is 175.1 - 176.0

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      I disagree. Not fighting is best for Manny right now. Manny has tremendous value as the B side to either Floyd or Canelo. He also has value as the "a side step up" for Crawford or Verdejo. He also could try and convince JMM (maybe Cotto but I doubt it) for 1 more fight, maybe in Mexico, which would be huge.
                      I thought one he won the election he was retired? That's what Arum is saying.

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