Wbc mandatory at 160 for martinez cotto and canelo

**Lester Tutor** · 05-09-2016, 09:51 AM

Originally posted by Jc8804

has been the wbc mandatory for 3 yrs now and hasnt been given his shot.

since winning Rubio's Interim WBC belt hasn't been 2 years yet...but casual fans can exaggerate that's fine..

**Cinci Champ** · 05-09-2016, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by Jc8804

Im hearing floyd said GGG should be the one to move up.

Oscar saying GGG should move up

That moron Gomez at golden boy
Say why doesnt GGG move up

All irrelevant since GGG is a 160 pounder
And has titles at 160 and has been the wbc mandatory for 3 yrs now and hasnt been given his shot.

Martinez avoide him and cotto along with canelo are saying they are not middleweights but they fought for a middleweight title if that makes any sense.

Why own and claim to wbc middleweight champion if you will not only unify with anothe middleweight champion but honor your mandatory.

This isnt like GGG at 160 not fighting ward at 168. This is like im a middleweight and you own a middleweight belt and you have fought in middleweight for that last 2 yrs and I happen to be your mandatory , so honor that and fight me. .

Even virgil hunter wards trainer agrees

well most fighters do move up they dont stay at the same weight their entire pro career when the division has nothing to offer. i mean lets be honest 160 is weak as ****. there is some name fighters like jacobs and saunders but lets be honest those guys are not belt holders in other weight classes period. the only good/great fighter is canelo who has never fought above 155. look at manny and mayweather and pretty much ever great fighter that has ever fought they could of made 140 with ease their entire career but they moved up. people tend to forget that mayweather and manny fighting at 147 and 154 would be like ggg fighting at 168 175. I mean seriously its what great fighters do they move up even Andre Ward is moving up to test himself, i mean literally every great fighter moves up not just a weight class but multiple and trust me its not just cause they got older.

At end of the day ggg can keep fighting guys at 160 and he can keep making the weight bla bla bla but at some point maybe after fighting canelo he needs to move up like every other great fighter in history has done.

its almost bizarre how ggg fans think of ggg moving up a weight class like the plague. its like if they agree he should move up then they have to admit he should of been at the very least open to fighting ward

**Jc8804** · 05-09-2016, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by Cinci Champ

well most fighters do move up they dont stay at the same weight their entire pro career when the division has nothing to offer. i mean lets be honest 160 is weak as ****. there is some name fighters like jacobs and saunders but lets be honest those guys are not belt holders in other weight classes period. the only good/great fighter is canelo who has never fought above 155. look at manny and mayweather and pretty much ever great fighter that has ever fought they could of made 140 with ease their entire career but they moved up. people tend to forget that mayweather and manny fighting at 147 and 154 would be like ggg fighting at 168 175. I mean seriously its what great fighters do they move up even Andre Ward is moving up to test himself, i mean literally every great fighter moves up not just a weight class but multiple and trust me its not just cause they got older.

At end of the day ggg can keep fighting guys at 160 and he can keep making the weight bla bla bla but at some point maybe after fighting canelo he needs to move up like every other great fighter in history has done.

its almost bizarre how ggg fans think of ggg moving up a weight class like the plague. its like if they agree he should move up then they have to admit he should of been at the very least open to fighting ward

See this is what im talking about. So hagler and b hop had the right to stay and unify but GGG doesnt. Who is saying GGG is on p4p status like floyd and manny??

All im saying is he has a right to want canelos belt at the full 160. He is entitled to his shot. And most boxing experts see the jump fro. 160 to 168 as the hardest jump in boxing beside light heavy to heavy

Ward is taking tune ups.
Had GGG moved up and wanted 3 tune ups people would go crazy. Im in just in awe of how people dont want canelo to have to defend the middleweight belt on a fair playing field of 160 so GGG can be done with it and either move up or dont. Im not saying GGG is all that but he is mandatory and deserves his shot in his division.

Manny could have requested floyd fight at 141 but didnt. If he did people would have been outraged. Same thing

**PK3434** · 05-09-2016, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by Jc8804

See this is what im talking about. So hagler and b hop had the right to stay and unify but GGG doesnt. Who is saying GGG is on p4p status like floyd and manny??

All im saying is he has a right to want canelos belt at the full 160. He is entitled to his shot. And most boxing experts see the jump fro. 160 to 168 as the hardest jump in boxing beside light heavy to heavy

Ward is taking tune ups.
Had GGG moved up and wanted 3 tune ups people would go crazy. Im in just in awe of how people dont want canelo to have to defend the middleweight belt on a fair playing field of 160 so GGG can be done with it and either move up or dont. Im not saying GGG is all that but he is mandatory and deserves his shot in his division.

Manny could have requested floyd fight at 141 but didnt. If he did people would have been outraged. Same thing

LOL imagine if GGG moved up to 168 and fought Blake Caparello, Caleb Truex, and J'Leon Love before getting a champion in the ring. Heads would explode.

**Eastcoast** · 05-09-2016, 10:39 AM

I remember when Peter Quillin was saying Golovkin should move up to 168 and fight Ward, lol.

You've got SMW's like DeGale and Groves saying Golovkin should stay at 160 b/c he's too small for 168.

**mick1303** · 05-09-2016, 11:03 AM

Originally posted by Cinci Champ

well most fighters do move up they dont stay at the same weight their entire pro career when the division has nothing to offer. i mean lets be honest 160 is weak as ****. there is some name fighters like jacobs and saunders but lets be honest those guys are not belt holders in other weight classes period. the only good/great fighter is canelo who has never fought above 155. look at manny and mayweather and pretty much ever great fighter that has ever fought they could of made 140 with ease their entire career but they moved up. people tend to forget that mayweather and manny fighting at 147 and 154 would be like ggg fighting at 168 175. I mean seriously its what great fighters do they move up even Andre Ward is moving up to test himself, i mean literally every great fighter moves up not just a weight class but multiple and trust me its not just cause they got older.

At end of the day ggg can keep fighting guys at 160 and he can keep making the weight bla bla bla but at some point maybe after fighting canelo he needs to move up like every other great fighter in history has done.

its almost bizarre how ggg fans think of ggg moving up a weight class like the plague. its like if they agree he should move up then they have to admit he should of been at the very least open to fighting ward

Yeah, he should move up, so Mayweather would unretire and beat some clown to claim MW title. And suddenly the division will be strong and full of life. You're so transparent....

**hectari** · 05-09-2016, 11:03 AM

yeah move up so we don't have to fight you, plus those ones saying GGG should move up are the same ones who say Rigondeaux is being ducked yet they say he is too small for 126 pounds from 122 lol

You got golden boy wanting GGG to move up so Nelo doesnt have to fight him, and you got the pro blacks who diss GGG because they dont want a non black to have shine, everything they criticize on GGG they dont do for black fighters, they never say Ward is picking on lil g why call a small guy up? if Ward was pure white and GGG was black they would say why Ward calling up GGG? picking on another smaller fighter.

Its why I only take fair rational people serious, race biased people are the worst.

The truth is GGG doesn't have to move up if he doesnt want to, he can defend those titles as long as he wants, Rigondeaux doesnt have to, Canelo should just take his skirt off and fight GGG at either 160 or a 158.

**Eff Pandas** · 05-09-2016, 11:19 AM

Originally posted by hectari

yeah move up so we don't have to fight you

This is the bottom line with those sort of move up comments. Its basically a compliment when everyone is dogging you about not moving up cuz they're saying you're too good, too dominant, too scary at the weight your at.

**about.thousands** · 05-09-2016, 11:24 AM

And all of those fighters were on the same network. Somebody tell me again how Haymon is stopping big fights from happening. You hear all the time time how an adviser should force his guys to fight. But never hear people saying the network who buys the fight should force their fighters to fight. Haymon or HBO can't force a fighter to fight another fighter. But HBO has more leverage than Haymon because they're the ones buying the fights. They can refuse to buy any of these guys fights unless it's against one another.

Wbc mandatory at 160 for martinez cotto and canelo