Alvarez neutralized speed, how will Lil'G even land on Alvarez?

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  • Xoahr
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    #41
    Originally posted by sicko
    People are 100% bought in to HYPE right now I fear what will happen when their hyped up guy "FALLS" what will be the reaction

    Canelo is not going to just get steamed roll, in fact Canelo typically does well vs GGG style which is guys coming straight to him and try to knock him out. Canelo struggles come from movement and backfoot fighters which lets be honest most fighters struggle against not just Canelo. Give Canelo props for actually stepping in with different styles and styles he knows he won't look good against

    All Canelo have to do is get it to the cards and he wins! Lets not act like GGG don't have flaws, GGG don't move his head much and can be hit as well. Canelo have some wiggle to him he can make people miss and counter. It is not a GIVEN that GGG beats Canelo!
    If GGG lost to Canelo, I would consider Canelo the true p4p #1, and an instant all time great.

    I think the fight would be a real challenge for GGG, but realistically I see it going down like the Lemieux fight. GGG has a bigger reach than Canelo, so I think we'll see that excellent piston-like jab being employed to stop Canelo from getting too frisky. Canelo will need to fight on the inside, and with Golovkin's ring-marshalship and the defensive capability he employed against Lemieux, I don't see that being easy.

    As to power, Canelo probably hits less hard than Lemieux. Canelo struggled to get the KO against Cotto and Mosley, but if he were able to get some body shots in, Golovkin could be hurt. We've never really seen how Golovkin manages against big body shots. We know his jaw is pretty good, though.

    Something a lot of people discount is that there is more to Golovkin than just coming forward and hitting hard. His footwork is excellent, he is far better at being balanced than Canelo, and he cuts off the ring in a very intelligent way. GGG won a silver in the Olympics, and won the International Amateurs a couple of times, and there is simply no way he could have his amateur record - over 400 documented fights, and only 5 documented losses (there are rumours there were another three). That's an insane amateur record, even if you go by the more conservative estimates of 350 fights and 8 losses.

    I sincerely believe there's a lot more to Golovkin we haven't seen yet, simply because he hasn't needed to use it. He's gone on record as saying he purposefully fights in a crowd friendly way, and I'm willing to believe him, because when he fought Lemieux he completely changed gears and style in the first 4 or 5 rounds, and then once he knew he'd ground Lemieux down enough, reverted back to his more physical style until he got the TKO.

    I think Canelo will really struggle with those aspects of Golovkin we've already seen, because whilst Golovkin has never really fought AAA fighters, the gatekeepers and respected veterans he has fought, he's simply walked through in a way which hasn't been seen for a really long time. If Golovkin does have more abilities and skills which he's keeping hidden away until he needs them, Canelo is really in trouble.

    Finally, Canelo sparred with Golovkin 5 years ago. I believe they fought 40 rounds over a few days. No video footage has ever been released, but a journalist who viewed the first day said it was pretty equal for the first few rounds, but then Golovkin who said he'd "warmed up" then went on to dominate for the rest. I also think Golovkin wasn't allowed to go for headshots then, either, as is the usual for him.

    I think that experience has really worried Canelo, but I also think there's a great deal of respect between the two fighters having undergone that experience. I think Canelo sincerely does want to fight Golovkin at 160, and I think Golovkin knows that, but I think Canelo's team doesn't want him to, because they're worried of the loss.

    It wouldn't be a walk over. I reckon it'd be a 10th or 11th round TKO, and if it did go to points, I think it would narrowly go to Golovkin (taking into account judge bias - but this in itself is a big compliment to Canelo. I think Golovkin has, on the scorecards, only ever lost 4 rounds out of 64).

    It's giving me flashbacks back to Froch v Groves and Froch v Groves II. I think it'll be an incredible fight, superb for the fans and career defining for GGG. Canelo is young enough, and has an excellent enough record that a loss would not be terminal for his career.

    This presumes, by the way, 158lbs+. Anything less, and it becomes a lot more even, and I see Canelo winning on points at 155 - 157.
    Last edited by Xoahr; 05-09-2016, 11:11 AM.

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    • From Russia
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      #42
      1) Canelas midget ass wont past GGG's A+ jab.
      2) fat ass Canela has slow foot speed to avoid GGG's pressure
      3) GGG would laugh at Canelas "power"
      4) gassy Canelo staminawise wont be able to hang on with GGG in later rounds

      It would be a complete destruction, imagine Chavez jr moving up to 175 and fighting Kovalev instead of Fonfarra.

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      • Lester Tutor
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        #43

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          #44
          Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
          Of course Alvarez has flaws. The kid's 25 too.. However, why do fans think Alvarez won't fight conservatively. I think Lil'G's achilles heel is going the distance. As Cleto Reyes just said, if Lil'G misses a lot I think, and I've been saying for soo long, he's going to gas out and Alvarez will capitalize on it. What sucks is that when Lil'G loses that 0 they will say that Alvarez should'Ve fought him right after Cotto... as if it would make a difference.
          Wtf does this mean? Learn English, then post, dumba$$

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          • Lester Tutor
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            #45
            Originally posted by From Russia
            1) Canelas midget ass wont past GGG's A+ jab.
            2) fat ass Canela has slow foot speed to avoid GGG's pressure
            3) GGG would laugh at Canelas "power"
            4) gassy Canelo staminawise wont be able to hang on with GGG in later rounds

            It would be a complete destruction, imagine Chavez jr moving up to 175 and fighting Kovalev instead of Fonfarra.
            Kovalev and Fonfara could learn something about moving up in weight considering Chavez Jr. started at 140! lol

            For example some boxing fans could tell Kovalev and Fonfara that there's a Heavyweight division as well.

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            • Lester Tutor
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              #46
              Originally posted by HeroBando
              Wtf does this mean? Learn English, then post, dumba$$
              ''I think Lil'G's achilles heel is going the distance..'' means

              ''Going The Distance'' = Completing 12 Rounds

              therefore, it could've been said ''I think Lil'G's achilles heel is going 12 rounds...''

              Meaning, as others have said, if it goes to the cards, Alvarez wins. Ever seen Lil'G on the stool?

              Lil'G will gas out against Alvarez. It is the fight that will put Lil'G to the test against a young 25 yr old.

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                #47
                Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
                ''I think Lil'G's achilles heel is going the distance..'' means

                ''Going The Distance'' = Completing 12 Rounds

                therefore, it could've been said ''I think Lil'G's achilles heel is going 12 rounds...''

                Meaning, as others have said, if it goes to the cards, Alvarez wins. Ever seen Lil'G on the stool?

                Lil'G will gas out against Alvarez. It is the fight that will put Lil'G to the test against a young 25 yr old.
                Is that empirical talk lol? How can it be achiles heel if you need to win 7 rounds, and nobody has mustered 2, ****** POS? Alvarez has way worse stamina AND output

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                • From Russia
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
                  Kovalev and Fonfara could learn something about moving up in weight considering Chavez Jr. started at 140! lol

                  For example some boxing fans could tell Kovalev and Fonfara that there's a Heavyweight division as well.
                  Its not Kovalev's fault that he is not from rich boxing family and became pro boxer much later than others... He fought in USA just for food for a long time, he deserves more respect than Chavez or Canelo

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                  • Lester Tutor
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by From Russia
                    Its not Kovalev's fault that he is not from rich boxing family and became pro boxer much later than others... He fought in USA just for food for a long time, he deserves more respect than Chavez or Canelo
                    ok. and Canelo was picked on as a kid because of his red hair his older brother got him into boxing. It's not about Kovalev.

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                    • stuff jones
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by SugarKaineHook


                      I'm telling yall....

                      You're begging for something that's going to shock you all. Lil'G is like 5 times slower than Khan, and Alvarez just tamed it...even in slow motion seeing the barrage of combos...

                      Lil'G is going to lose that 0. The same way Floyd neutralized Pac speed...

                      Alvarez' defense is so underrated.
                      WTF are you rambling on about? GGG doesn't rely on speed.

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