Comments Thread For: Canelo's Manager: Golovkin is Not a Monster, He's Not Superman

[FLY TY]

I think that Canelo wants to give himself the best chance to win like GGG wanted Ward to come down in weight. So Canelo is now the A side and is angling for advantegous that Pac/Mayweather/DLH have used against opponents. It's war in and outside the ring trying to gain as many tactical advantegous as possible. It can be frustrating for the fans however I understand the art of war.

100%....

GGG is the most dangerous fighter at 160, and doesn't want to give in to Canelo's demands, and Canelo has fought the better opposition, and made more money than gig, so he feels he doesn't have to concede a damn thing either.

I guess we'll see what's more important to these guys, pride or money...

[Francis M.]

And so do Team Golovkin, they do the exact same thing.

Team Golovkin can't talk..... and their " outrage ", is cute.

You do realize that GGG was actually going to move up in weight to fight Ward the P4P best fighter.

All people are asking of Canelo is to fight someone from his actual division.

[aboutfkntime]

You do realize that GGG was actually going to move up in weight to fight Ward the P4P best fighter.

All people are asking of Canelo is to fight someone from his actual division.

Nope !


Team Bull**** have promised the world, and delivered absolutely nothing.


I don't believe a word they say.


I have no idea if they really would have fought Froch, Chavez, Hopkins, Chudinov, Ramirez..... but it is clearly obvious they wanted nothing to do with Ward.


Immediately following the Lemieux fight they stated that Gennady could beat everyone at 154..... and yet here they are accepting step-aside money rather than fight, simply because they are not prepared to back up their words with action.


They could have fought Canelo immediately following the Cotto fight.


I don't believe a word they say.

[casheddie]

Like Virgil Hunter said, the fighters that GGG KO's could not be KO'ed by Canelo. If Canelo fought Lemiuex or Rosado or Monroe he would not be able to knock them out. Just because GGG can do it doesnt mean everyone can. I guarentee Canelo would win by UD in everyone of those fights.

[aboutfkntime]

Like Virgil Hunter said, the fighters that GGG KO's could not be KO'ed by Canelo. If Canelo fought Lemiuex or Rosado or Monroe he would not be able to knock them out. Just because GGG can do it doesnt mean everyone can. I guarentee Canelo would win by UD in everyone of those fights.

So.....

A guy who never fought above 155 can beat all of GGG's opponents ?

Meaning that Golovkin is great, how exactly ?

How do a few " goods ", suddenly become " greats " ?

Same with Manny Pacquiao, and the last half of his career.....

..... name 1 Pac opponent who would not have lost to number of guys in his own division when Pac fought him.

Name 1 ?

Name 1 " great " win ?

A few goods =/= "great".

If a number of guys can beat a particular fighter, how does Pac beating him make that a great win? WTF?

Same with Golovkin.

I can't believe some fans are comparing this guy to Hopkins LMAO.

[casheddie]

So.....

A guy who never fought above 155 can beat all of GGG's opponents ?

Meaning that Golovkin is great, how exactly ?

How do a few " goods ", suddenly become " greats " ?

Same with Manny Pacquiao, and the last half of his career.....

..... name 1 Pac opponent who would not have lost to number of guys in his own division when Pac fought him.

Name 1 ?

Name 1 " great " win ?

A few goods =/= "great".

If a number of guys can beat a particular fighter, how does Pac beating him make that a great win? WTF?

Same with Golovkin.

I can't believe some fans are comparing this guy to Hopkins LMAO.

What defines a great win. Cause May-Pac was no great win and neither was Canelo-Cotto. Your looking for a name like a casual fan. When in reality, big names that Canelo fought were at the end of their career and were physically smaller than him.

Canelo caught Mosley after a loss to Pac and Mayweather.
And fought Cotto after he beat Geale (former GGG opponent). Cotto, btw who never fought at middleweight and snatched the belt from a broken Martinez at 155 lbs.

There are no big wins to be had, because all of the big names are gone.

[aboutfkntime]

What defines a great win.

Beating a great opponent, when he is on TOP of his game.

Cause May-Pac was no great win and neither was Canelo-Cotto.

I don't think they were great wins either..... but they were very-good wins, far better than anything Golovkin has done.

Your looking for a name like a casual fan. When in reality, big names that Canelo fought were at the end of their career and were physically smaller than him.

Canelo caught Mosley after a loss to Pac and Mayweather.
And fought Cotto after he beat Geale (former GGG opponent). Cotto, btw who never fought at middleweight and snatched the belt from a broken Martinez at 155 lbs.

Agreed, but that applies to Pacquiao as well..... also, every single one of Pac's " name " opponents were on the slide when Manny fought them.

Golovkin hasn't fought any name opponents yet, prime or otherwise.

There are no big wins to be had, because all of the big names are gone.

Yep.

Personally, I am not in the " the greats must move up in weight " camp.

I actually disagree completely.

If Kovalev and Golovkin stay at 175/160, then fine..... you carve a legacy the exact same way, regardless of division..... but historians are kinder to multi-divisions champions, mostly because they have more opportunities to fight great opponents than guys who sit in 1 division.

Exceptions being guys who had no nowhere to go but fought in a great era, like Ali..... and also guys like Pep who fought in a great era for a very long time chalking up well-over 200+ fights.

[speed2kill]

I think Canelo just cant forget the brutal schooling/whooping he received in Big Bear a few years back. Canelo has improved some since that time, but a man just cant forget that kind of brutalizing so easily.

[mathed]

100%....

GGG is the most dangerous fighter at 160, and doesn't want to give in to Canelo's demands, and Canelo has fought the better opposition, and made more money than gig, so he feels he doesn't have to concede a damn thing either.

I guess we'll see what's more important to these guys, pride or money...

Or the rules..............

"He has got the middleweight title of the world doesn't he? Well, then he's a muthaphukking middleweight!" - Virgil Hunter

[casheddie]

So.....

A guy who never fought above 155 can beat all of GGG's opponents ?

Meaning that Golovkin is great, how exactly ?

How do a few " goods ", suddenly become " greats " ?

Same with Manny Pacquiao, and the last half of his career.....

..... name 1 Pac opponent who would not have lost to number of guys in his own division when Pac fought him.

Name 1 ?

Name 1 " great " win ?

A few goods =/= "great".

If a number of guys can beat a particular fighter, how does Pac beating him make that a great win? WTF?

Same with Golovkin.

I can't believe some fans are comparing this guy to Hopkins LMAO.

Beating a great opponent, when he is on TOP of his game.





I don't think they were great wins either..... but they were very-good wins, far better than anything Golovkin has done.





Agreed, but that applies to Pacquiao as well..... also, every single one of Pac's " name " opponents were on the slide when Manny fought them.

Golovkin hasn't fought any name opponents yet, prime or otherwise.





Yep.

Personally, I am not in the " the greats must move up in weight " camp.

I actually disagree completely.

If Kovalev and Golovkin stay at 175/160, then fine..... you carve a legacy the exact same way, regardless of division..... but historians are kinder to multi-divisions champions, mostly because they have more opportunities to fight great opponents than guys who sit in 1 division.

Exceptions being guys who had no nowhere to go but fought in a great era, like Ali..... and also guys like Pep who fought in a great era for a very long time chalking up well-over 200+ fights.

I do believe GGG wants fights at 168. If he can unify the middleweight division, I think there would be pressure to move up. Especially if there is a clear lineal champ at Super Middleweight.