Comments Thread For: "Fighting Words" - Canelo, Khan, Golovkin and The Inevitable

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  • galloindio
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    #21
    Originally posted by tlk70
    You're right about the the two pounds, he had to drop to face Floyd. Still, sissy Floyd did not ask the more experienced and accomplished Cotto to come in below 154. Canelo did, in order to make the fight happen.

    Canelo can still make S.welterweight, so he is a SWW. If he comes in at 170 fight night, after tipping the scales at 154 the day b4, that doesn't make him a Light Heavy, does it? He's fighting at MD, correct, so? he is not obligated to fight at 160.

    You don't seem to understand who is on the drivers seat. Hopkins at 39 years of age, over 10 years holding the MW championship, on his 19 (or so) defense against ODLH, agreed to come in at 157, and came in at 156. Canelo is certainly not Oscar, but GGG is a long way from being BHop.

    Make no mistake, GGG will cut down the weight 2 or 3 pounds. He can't afford not to. Canelo can always go back to SWW and fight 1 or 2 fights and he will do well. GGG at 34, can't wait one more year.

    If you can't understand how the boxing business works, then I can't help you. Mark my words, GGG will give up 2 or 3 pounds or no fight. That's the way it is.
    At 39 years old with nothing left to prove, how many more big money fights did Bhop have lined up? Of course he cut the weight to fight ODLH at that age. Very different than GGG. That's the dumbest comparisons people can make. BTW when to fighters are at least 2 weight divisions apart it's normal that the B side would cut or gain weight. Name another big money fight where two champions in the same division had a catchweight...??? And no Cotto is not a MW. Canelo will not fight GGG at 155, 156, 157, 158, 159 or 160, it's all smoke and mirrors.

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    • galloindio
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      #22
      Originally posted by JUNIABOY
      I'm pretty sure Pacquiao isn't going to un-retire to face Canelo. Despite the money he could stand to make, it's the weight issue that will ultimately be the roadblock to this bout. Roach already said that they will only accept a Canelo fight at 155 if there's a rehydration clause of no more than 10 lbs. Not happening. Canelo will probably be too dehydrated to put up any kind of fight, & his trainer knows it. Canelo can only go up to 165 when he's rumored to hit 175+ on fight night?...Canelo will never go for that. A Pacquiao bout is a dead-end road.
      You said you think Pacquiao will not un-retire to fight Canelo and then you go on to explain that it would be Canelo who wouldn't accept the rehydration terms. Although I do agree that Canelo would be the one not accepting. I do think that Manny would un-retire if Canelo only outweighed him by 20 lbs instead of the 30lbs that you suggest he would require (assuming Canelo wants 145 vs 175 at fight night).

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      • JUNIABOY
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        #23
        Originally posted by galloindio
        You said you think Pacquiao will not un-retire to fight Canelo and then you go on to explain that it would be Canelo who wouldn't accept the rehydration terms. Although I do agree that Canelo would be the one not accepting. I do think that Manny would un-retire if Canelo only outweighed him by 20 lbs instead of the 30lbs that you suggest he would require (assuming Canelo wants 145 vs 175 at fight night).
        Yup. The money Pacquiao could make from a fight against Canelo or a rematch with FMJ is just too enticing...he would want to come back. But only those 2...and for Canelo, only if he's willing to accept a rehydration clause. Canelo is running out of legit opponents.

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        • tlk70
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          #24
          #1 Fact is, Canelo is a SWW. Don't need to give in an inch to GGG. He does not need 3G.
          #2 Not happening on 2016 at 160. May not happen in 2017 at 160 if Canelo can still make SWW. Canelo has the age advantage too.

          #3 3G is all afraid to lose his 0. That's what the Brook fight tells me.

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          • tlk70
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            #25
            Sorry if your few brain cells don't allow you to understand it. Fact is that, 3G is unproven, unaccomplished fighter. Yes! he has the titles. Yes! he is undefeated and yes he is dominating and overwhelming the opposition. But there isn't ONE name worth to remember on his resume. NOW I'll explain you the Hopkins/ODLH fight comparison, Hopkins was the accomplished, dominant MW. But still he was the B-side to De La Hoya, who sold the tickets. Hopkins did what was necessary to get him in the ring and owned him. Wuss Golovkin, says he can't go down and rather skip the opportunity of his life. Too bad, that when Canelo gets in the ring with GGG, will expose him and the haters will cry saying he was too old.

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            • HeroBando
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              #26
              Originally posted by tlk70
              Sorry if your few brain cells don't allow you to understand it. Fact is that, 3G is unproven, unaccomplished fighter. Yes! he has the titles. Yes! he is undefeated and yes he is dominating and overwhelming the opposition. But there isn't ONE name worth to remember on his resume. NOW I'll explain you the Hopkins/ODLH fight comparison, Hopkins was the accomplished, dominant MW. But still he was the B-side to De La Hoya, who sold the tickets. Hopkins did what was necessary to get him in the ring and owned him. Wuss Golovkin, says he can't go down and rather skip the opportunity of his life. Too bad, that when Canelo gets in the ring with GGG, will expose him and the haters will cry saying he was too old.
              Stop is, pathetic alt. Hopkins received a big money contract to fight a midget paper champ at 158, then didn't like the CW and tried bargaining up, from his own mouth. This fraud lineal champ didn't offer big money at 158 or even 155, just gave up the belt to avoid the mandated fight

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              • tlk70
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                #27
                Originally posted by HeroBando
                Stop is, pathetic alt. Hopkins received a big money contract to fight a midget paper champ at 158, then didn't like the CW and tried bargaining up, from his own mouth. This fraud lineal champ didn't offer big money at 158 or even 155, just gave up the belt to avoid the mandated fight
                It's useless to try to make you understand. That is how boxing works. 3G said no to his biggest payday. Now that he couldn't land the fight, he will be fighting worthless or over matched opponents to keep is 0, and the Canelo fight hopes (and payday) in the horizon.

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