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  • Lester Tutor
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    #11
    Originally posted by about.thousands
    If you're supposed to be there next big thing in boxing, a young hungry lion, you should dispatch these old dudes. That's how you become the king. Make the old Kings retire.
    cmon bro. don'T go that route. Cotto is 35... a yr older than Lil'G..

    Kovalev tried his best to finish Bhop in Rd 1 but he couldn't be it clinching or ''running'' as NSB posters like to say. How old is Bhop compared to Kova and you know very well the Kova fans believe he and Lil'G are about equal in p4p... Cotto didn't fight that style against Geale or Martinez, and Cotto to his defense has a strong chin just like Floyd. The Maidana haymaker on Floyd's face in theory should've at least put him on a flash knockdown considering how Marquez landed on Pac's face.

    Cotto vs Alvarez was a great fight of offensive and defensive skills.

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    • about.thousands
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      #12
      Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
      cmon bro. don'T go that route. Cotto is 35... a yr older than Lil'G..

      Kovalev tried his best to finish Bhop in Rd 1 but he couldn't be it clinching or ''running'' as NSB posters like to say. How old is Bhop compared to Kova and you know very well the Kova fans believe he and Lil'G are about equal in p4p... Cotto didn't fight that style against Geale or Martinez, and Cotto to his defense has a strong chin just like Floyd. The Maidana haymaker on Floyd's face in theory should've at least put him on a flash knockdown considering how Marquez landed on Pac's face.

      Cotto vs Alvarez was a great fight of offensive and defensive skills.

      In that Hopkins fight Kovalev beat him soundly and almost put him away in the 12th. Canelo came nowhere close to doing that against Cotto. They're even talking about a rematch ffs. If you're supposed to be the next big thing. A hungry young lion. The one to take over the sport from Floyd. Well fight like Floyd did at your age, not looked Floyd did against you.

      I was saying the same thing about Spence before he fought Algieri. If he's supposed to be the next big thing he's gotta impress me. Don't show me you can do what a 35 year old Manny can do. Show me what Manny would've done at your age. And he did

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      • killakali
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        #13
        Originally posted by TheBoxingXpert
        These are the 5 best opponents Canelo fought. Let's look at how he did against them...

        1: Mayweather (Canelo got absolutely clowned in this fight. It was one of Mayweather's easiest fights in years)
        2: Lara (It was a close fight, but Canelo deserved a draw at best. To me, this fight belonged to Lara)
        3: Trout (It was a close fight, but Canelo deserved a draw at best. To me, this fight belonged to Trout)
        4: Cotto (Canelo won a competive fight. It was kinda disappointing that he had to struggle against Cotto, who had done nothing for years and lost more convincingly to Trout. Some even think Cotto won the fight)
        5: Kirkland (Kirkland was a bit shot, with not having fought for years and all, and while Kirkland was never that impressive to begin with, the knockout looked cool)

        In general... For his age, Canelo has done good, but is there really so much to be impressed about?
        I had Mayweather beating Canelo comfortably 10 rounds to 2 but Canelo won all of the other fights you mention.

        Vs Lara I had Canelo 7-5 you have to score the body shots he landed. I feel if Lara would have used his jab more as he was on his bicycle he could have won but there were long stretches that he wouldn't throw a punch. If you rewatch the fights look at Lara's face every time he would get hit to the body. He winces and withdraws from the pocket and readjusts his shorts. Judges see that and see that the punches were very effective to the body.

        Vs Trout I had Canelo 115-112. He got out to a big lead and I think he coasted the last few rounds being that there was open scoring and he had an insurmountable lead.

        The Trout and Lara fights were close but clear wins for Canelo. Just the fact that the Lara fight was that close it proves how good of a fighter Canelo is

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        • P.K Dionysus
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          #14
          On paper, his career in the last 3 or so years is really good. He's fought and won against really good competition on paper. The problem is, there's almost always an asterisk next to those W's, and they aren't illogical or emotion based slow motion asterisks, they're genuine.

          The problem with Saul's record against supposed top level opposition is that he's never had a convincing victory over them. He's only had a convincing loss to Floyd.

          The fanfare he receives likely isn't in proportion with the ability he's shown.

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          • boliodogs
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            #15
            You don't like Canelo so you are trying to make others share your wrong opinion. Canelo is a damn good fighter generally rated among the ten best pound for pound boxers in the world. Mayweather himself says Canelo is a hell of a fighter. You don't think much of him but then you are far from a boxing expert. Canelo lost only once to the guy who always wins. He won all his other fights and only Canelo haters like you try to say he didn't deserve the wins over Lara and Trout. I'm sure he will shine in his fight tomorrow and I am sure you will try to diminish his KO win.

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            • boliodogs
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              #16
              Originally posted by TheBoxingXpert
              And if anyone claims that Canelo won against Lara and Trout, please show the RBR scores you had, don't be one of the typical fans who just can't stand to see interesting non-black fighters lose to less interesting black fighters who just happen to be better.
              You wouldn't just happens to be a black boxing fan who hates good white fighters would you now??????? It's funny how you have the two black fighters winning fights with Canelo that they officially lost. I am white but I love many good black fighters like Spence, Rigo, Brook, Joshua and many more. Unless you say aren't black I think you are a very bias, prejudice black fight fan.

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              • TheBoxingXpert
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                #17
                Originally posted by Boxfan83
                So Mayweather clowned Canelo, but Canelo is not that good? Are you taking away from Floyd or Canelo in this thread? If Canelo lost to Trout and Lara I guess Floyd took the easier of the 3 fights. No wonder Floyd doesnt fight other Black guys, they are to good, its easier to pick on the Messicans...
                I agree. Lara and Trout would be big problems for Floyd. He could probably beat Trout in a hard fight and against Lara, he might possibly even lose.

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                • TheBoxingXpert
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by DionysusX
                  On paper, his career in the last 3 or so years is really good. He's fought and won against really good competition on paper. The problem is, there's almost always an asterisk next to those W's, and they aren't illogical or emotion based slow motion asterisks, they're genuine.

                  The problem with Saul's record against supposed top level opposition is that he's never had a convincing victory over them. He's only had a convincing loss to Floyd.

                  The fanfare he receives likely isn't in proportion with the ability he's shown.
                  That is so true. I would have given you green K if I was white but you have to settle with my praise.

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                  • TheBoxingXpert
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by boliodogs
                    You wouldn't just happens to be a black boxing fan who hates good white fighters would you now??????? It's funny how you have the two black fighters winning fights with Canelo that they officially lost. I am white but I love many good black fighters like Spence, Rigo, Brook, Joshua and many more. Unless you say aren't black I think you are a very bias, prejudice black fight fan.
                    If I'm black or white doesn't matter. But let me tell you that few appreciate Calzaghe, Froch and Kessler more than me, as well as Kovalev. I had two black fighters winning against Canelo because they exposed his lack of skills. It didn't have anything to do with their color. With "two black fighters", I am, of course, not including Floyd. Everyone agrees on Canelo being similar to a **** victim after that fight.

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