Showtimes Jack vs Bute Ratings

**about.thousands** · 05-03-2016, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by R-C

I hope they get better with the coming fights

Saturday’s @SHOsports card averaged 317k viewers. #JackBute main event averaged 336k (400k peak). #DeGaleMedina 342k (397k peak). #boxing
— Dan Rafael (@danrafaelespn) May 3, 2016

That's up from DeGale vs Bute, those numbers were in the 200k range if I recall correctly.

**285Kid** · 05-03-2016, 05:58 PM

Stop doing fights on Showtime , that what NBC, FOX & CBS is for

**Pigeons** · 05-03-2016, 05:58 PM

Nearly identical averages and peaks.

**bigdunny1** · 05-03-2016, 06:01 PM

Yeah these ratings are terrible. In 1 year showtime has lost more then 50% of their boxing viewers. These are ratings they got for shobox a year and a half ago. They used to avg almost 1m viewers now in 2016 they avg 300k and the highest rating was 500k. The sad part is even though the ratings fell off a cliff I believe they are actually paying more for fights then they used to. Haymon has really run showtime into the ground. Took all their fighters to PBC and now that they are all coming back to Showtime it has had no effect in the ratings.

**R-C** · 05-03-2016, 06:02 PM

Why do you guys think that HBO does better numbers than Showtime? I honestly think HBO has a lot of mismatches, but for some reason they get better numbers.

Also, HBO budget is decreasing and it seams that Showtime is spending a lot of money, shouldn't Showtime do better than HBO with that logic?

**about.thousands** · 05-03-2016, 06:05 PM

Originally posted by R-C

Why do you guys think that HBO does better numbers than Showtime? I honestly think HBO has a lot of mismatches, but for some reason they get better numbers.

Also, HBO budget is decreasing and it seams that Showtime is spending a lot of money, shouldn't Showtime do better than HBO with that logic?

Game of Thrones. Most people don't subscribe to premium networks for boxing HBO has always had good original shows. What original programming does Showtime has that keeps people subscribing? This is a serious question because I only subscribe for boxing on both networks. But I know Game of Thrones his huge.

**bigdunny1** · 05-03-2016, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by R-C

Why do you guys think that HBO does better numbers than Showtime? I honestly think HBO has a lot of mismatches, but for some reason they get better numbers.

Also, HBO budget is decreasing and it seams that Showtime is spending a lot of money, shouldn't Showtime do better than HBO with that logic?

One answer...AL HAYMON
The ratings went south after the Haymon ripped apart Golden Boy. That's the line in the sand when ratings fell. Prior to that they were competing neck and neck with HBO. They lost Golden Boy and then Haymon created PBC took all their fighters away and even now with PBC struggling with money and Haymon sending his fighters back to Showtime it has had zero effect on the ratings.

**bigdunny1** · 05-03-2016, 06:09 PM

Originally posted by about.thousands

Game of Thrones. Most people don't subscribe to premium networks for boxing HBO has always had good original shows. What original programming does Showtime has that keeps people subscribing? This is a serious question because I only subscribe for boxing on both networks. But I know Game of Thrones his huge.

The amount of subscriptions showtime has compared to HBO is virtually identical to what it was a year and a half ago. Showtime has lost boxing viewers but has lost no significant amount of overall subscriptions. This is a showtime boxing issue there other programming ratings have not fallen by the percents we are seeing in their boxing. The divorce between Golden Boy and Haymon starting PBC and negativity that they are now attached to because of their association with Haymon has more to do with these ratings then anything else.

**about.thousands** · 05-03-2016, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by bigdunny1

The amount of subscriptions showtime has compared to HBO is virtually identical to what it was a year and a half ago. Showtime has lost boxing viewers but has lost no significant amount of overall subscriptions. This is a showtime boxing issue there other programming ratings have not fallen by the percents we are seeing in their boxing. The divorce between Golden Boy and Haymon starting PBC and negativity that they are now attached to because of their association with Haymon has more to do with these ratings then anything else.

So you're saying people refuse to watch good fights because those fighters are associated with Al Haymon? That doesn't make any sense

Showtimes Jack vs Bute Ratings