Comments Thread For: "Fighting Words" - On Francisco Vargas' Positive Drug Test

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by David P. Greisman - The number of pro athletes who've been guilty has led to an even greater number of them being guilty by association. Our eyes have long since been opened to the use of performance-enhancing drugs in seemingly every sport and at seemingly every level, often to get more out of training so as to get more out of themselves on the field, in the pool, on the track, in the ring and wherever else competition is taking place. We know that many more beyond those who've been caught have turned to taking, well, whatever it takes to get ahead - or to keep from falling behind.
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[CmdrSoCal]

Say NO To DOPE Tests

Dope tests are Bulll Shlt and always have been. The crooked establishment can destroy a clean athlete with the push of a button and establishment bltches can use all day and test clean. Any roid user with brains can slip by testing anyway. Complete BS. Professional cycling is a good example of the establishment knowing and protecting Lance Armstrong and other popular PED user athletes to make huge piles of cash and then burning them when there stock falls or they stop following establishment orders. Dope testing is make believe fantasy land that can end a career. Banned substances? Says who the establishment mafia? What if herbs are added to the made up lists?

[Weebler I]

Dope tests are Bulll Shlt and always have been. The crooked establishment can destroy a clean athlete with the push of a button and establishment bltches can use all day and test clean. Any roid user with brains can slip by testing anyway. Complete BS. Professional cycling is a good example of the establishment knowing and protecting Lance Armstrong and other popular PED user athletes to make huge piles of cash and then burning them when there stock falls or they stop following establishment orders. Dope testing is make believe fantasy land that can end a career. Banned substances? Says who the establishment mafia? What if herbs are added to the made up lists?

Who is this "establishment" you refer to? Pretty sure there isn't one in boxing. Be good if there was mind. If you mean USADA fair enough.

[CmdrSoCal]

The Occult establishment that runs the world.

[Caxcan]

There have actually been large scale cases of positive results due to contamination in Mexico's meat supply:
"FIFA has claimed 109 players from multiple countries who were participating in the Under-17 World Cup in Mexico tested positive for this drug. However, FIFA and the World Anti-Doping Agency declined to prosecute any cases because the weight of evidence pointed to contamination from Mexican meat."

So I'm inclined to believe Vargas given that only small amounts of the drug were found in his system and his results were clean less than a week prior. Not to mention he was the one who requested testing in the first place.

[Gajabi]

I honestly hope he's clean and this was just some misunderstanding. I was really warming up to Vargas. If it turns out he knowingly used peds that'll suck but can't make a special case for anyone.

[BrometheusBob.]

They really ought to set a threshold for clenbuterol. Most other drugs have thresholds to prevent false positives. They can try to find out how much clenbuterol a person eating meat in countries (such as Mexico) where clenbuterol is fed to the animals might have in their system at any given point.

[Beercules]

Taco meat doe

[nycsmooth]

This is an our 4 every Mex fighter that tests postitive...Foster seems weak on this, a cery, very low amount...ok...I'm sure Sulaiman's put his 2 cents in...

[Snoop Frog]

Great article Greisman. I didn't realize Mexican beef had that many steroids injected into it. I'm inclined to believe Vargas now since he called for VADA testing.