PBC has TONS of money in the bank

[The Gambler1981]

I can understand this, but I think the bigger picture is it shows how far boxing has fallen too that HBO isn't throwing the money it used to into boxing. I mean the hard truth all these guys dogging or praising these various groups like HBO, PBC, GBP, Showtime & TR are ignoring is its not like anyone is exactly killing it in the boxing business these days. Sure there are certain events that are big & show what boxing is capable of still, but these events are becoming fewer & further apart. Its not a HBO problem, its not a PBC problem or anyone elses problem, its a boxing problem.

Kind of but boxing just had it's biggest event ever a year ago and Manny and Floyd have had unprecedented success for smaller guys basically printing money. HBO was the biggest and when they sneezed everyone else caught a cold, transitioning away from that which Haymon was forced to do (both from HBO directly telling his guys to pound sand and their ever shrinking budget) was always going to be a messy process that effected the whole sport in the US.

HBO hanging on by their fingernails is not helping the process either because that is just prolonging all this pain. I either want to see them be all the way in or get out of the way and produce another good show with the savings.

[PKing]

Kind of but boxing just had it's biggest event ever a year ago and Manny and Floyd have had unprecedented success for smaller guys basically printing money. HBO was the biggest and when they sneezed everyone else caught a cold, transitioning away from that which Haymon was forced to do (both from HBO directly telling his guys to pound sand and their ever shrinking budget) was always going to be a messy process that effected the whole sport in the US.

HBO hanging on by their fingernails is not helping the process either because that is just prolonging all this pain. I either want to see them be all the way in or get out of the way and produce another good show with the savings.

HBO should just focus on making more Game of Thrones... less boxing.

Original series didn't even begin to explode $$$ wise in 1999 when the HBO boxing budget was $100 million.

[jqSide]

Waiting for and hoping that HBO would close its boxing department is like trying to stop the rooster from crowing every morning. What an idiot. Good luck doe.

[Eff Pandas]

Kind of but boxing just had it's biggest event ever a year ago and Manny and Floyd have had unprecedented success for smaller guys basically printing money. HBO was the biggest and when they sneezed everyone else caught a cold, transitioning away from that which Haymon was forced to do (both from HBO directly telling his guys to pound sand and their ever shrinking budget) was always going to be a messy process that effected the whole sport in the US.

HBO hanging on by their fingernails is not helping the process either because that is just prolonging all this pain. I either want to see them be all the way in or get out of the way and produce another good show with the savings.

Yea like I said there are events in boxing that shows what boxing is capable of, but the rest of the time things are more mundane then arguably they've ever been for most fans. I mean boxing is pretty much a 2 events per year sport. Cinco De Mayo & Mexican Independence day for many fans.

And idk who HBO's getting out of the way of. PBC isn't doing as well as most think they could be & are making amateur mistakes guys following boxing for a year can see are issues. Showtime showed only a handful of events last year & who knows if they will go on hiatus again after this slew of shows they have planned to maintain any sort of momentum.

[PKing]

Waiting for and hoping that HBO would close its boxing department is like trying to stop the rooster from crowing every morning. What an idiot. Good luck doe.

Oh yeah... since we've seen nothing but budget increases on HBO boxing since 1998. Yeah.

People here are soooooo smart. Lol

[jqSide]

Oh yeah... since we've seen nothing but budget increases on HBO boxing since 1998. Yeah.

People here are soooooo smart. Lol

Worry about Haymon's PBC doe. The lawsuits are all over the place. HBO got Game of Thrones and Bill Maher's Real Time, which most likely makes HBO good money than their boxing department.

[PKing]

Worry about Haymon's PBC doe. The lawsuits are all over the place. HBO got Game of Thrones and Bill Maher's Real Time, which most likely makes HBO good money than their boxing department.

That's the entire point dumbshet.

HBO is going to trash their shiety boxing program to focus on original series that make huge money.

[Eastcoast]

That's the entire point dumbshet.

HBO is going to trash their shiety boxing program to focus on original series that make huge money.

Hmmm, no. HBO's policy has always been to have a diversity of programming. Boxing in it's current capacity is a small budget investment to them, so it's not an issue that they're looking to get rid of it. It still does decent ratings for them (unlike Showtime) and there's always the potential for another mega star to come along.

[PKing]

Hmmm, no. HBO's policy has always been to have a diversity of programming. Boxing in it's current capacity is a small budget investment to them, so it's not an issue that they're looking to get rid of it. It still does decent ratings for them (unlike Showtime) and there's always the potential for another mega star to come along.

Ahahahahahahahaha!

Just... Ahahahahahaha!

Always potential for another mega star to come along. What is this... Alice in Wonderland?

Ahahahahaha! This is too easy.

[The Gambler1981]

Yea like I said there are events in boxing that shows what boxing is capable of, but the rest of the time things are more mundane then arguably they've ever been for most fans. I mean boxing is pretty much a 2 events per year sport. Cinco De Mayo & Mexican Independence day for many fans.

And idk who HBO's getting out of the way of. PBC isn't doing as well as most think they could be & are making amateur mistakes guys following boxing for a year can see are issues. Showtime showed only a handful of events last year & who knows if they will go on hiatus again after this slew of shows they have planned to maintain any sort of momentum.

It is a continuing of a divided sport, no sport flourishes when there are two competing brands for the top. So one needs to swallow the other and the divide allows for other players to push their minority interests rather than the interest of the great whole.

Like I said PBC could do better with things but honestly no matter what they did there would be some issues they would need to improve upon, no company starts up off the rip as perfect, it needs to be built up. I think a lot issues are also over stated, especially the match-making one because I have watched plenty of good fights on PBC or Haymon Showtime cards.