Spence fires shots at Kenny Porter

[Eff Pandas]

I think this whole A-Side vs B-Side is over used.

Probably is, but its a relevant topic like its never been in this day when selling PPV's &/or being able to get solid ratings &/or getting asses in seats is almost as important as winning fights. And people like to act like its only a factor in big fights, but A side/B side **** happens all the way down to the club fight level to some degree.

I don't think Haymon is conspiring against Porter, but rather prefer if he loses to his more popular fighters. Every promoter and (or) manager have their favorites.

Arum favored Juanma over Gamboa. And protected Juanma from Gamboa.

Oscar was willing to sacrifice Ortiz to Canelo.

And Haymon cares more about the demands of Broner and Thurman than that of Porter. There's nothing wrong with that, Porter doesn't have the same appeal as a Broner or Thurman and that's understandable.

Eh I mean there is a different dynamic going on with promoters vs managers. A promoter has a measurable investment in boxers. So it reasonable he's rooting for certain boxers. A manager very well could be rooting for one side over the other as well, but I believe there is a much thiner line he's walking. With that being the case he needs to take inventory of what his boxers want based on what Haymon has gotten for them in the past in non-same manager fights & go from there.

And I mean the fact these fights you are bringing up have happened or are happening soon suggests the contract made wasn't unagreeable enough to Porter for him to walk. If Porter thought a catchweight or a rematch options wasn't fair he doesn't have to agree to them & those seem like such obvious things with obvious problems if you got problems with them that if he was opposed to them they are easy things to stand your ground on even if Haymon was trying to Don King or Bob Arum agree you into something you don't wanna do. These aren't $10,000 towels or bait n switched paydays type things.

Also this isn't to say that maybe Haymon isn't doing f#cked up **** behind the scenes that we may learn of at a later date, there just isn't anything that makes this a clear case of favoritism (or worse things) right now is my stance.

[FeFist]

Do people actually rate Shawn Porter? He's one of the worst fighters I have seen in recent years; I don't think it helps that he makes pressure fighting a chore to watch.

[Dean_Razorback]

a win that SOME, just SOME people have Pac alot of credit for.

Although everyone knew Algeri was a decent fighter the whole time.

most people here, me included, trashed pac-algieri, it was a shit fight, algieri shouldn't have shared a ring with manny. it's a good win for spence, that's it

[sicko]

That is All?

[SilverMiles]

Probably is, but its a relevant topic like its never been in this day when selling PPV's &/or being able to get solid ratings &/or getting asses in seats is almost as important as winning fights. And people like to act like its only a factor in big fights, but A side/B side **** happens all the way down to the club fight level to some degree.



Eh I mean there is a different dynamic going on with promoters vs managers. A promoter has a measurable investment in boxers. So it reasonable he's rooting for certain boxers. A manager very well could be rooting for one side over the other as well, but I believe there is a much thiner line he's walking. With that being the case he needs to take inventory of what his boxers want based on what Haymon has gotten for them in the past in non-same manager fights & go from there.

And I mean the fact these fights you are bringing up have happened or are happening soon suggests the contract made wasn't unagreeable enough to Porter for him to walk. If Porter thought a catchweight or a rematch options wasn't fair he doesn't have to agree to them & those seem like such obvious things with obvious problems if you got problems with them that if he was opposed to them they are easy things to stand your ground on even if Haymon was trying to Don King or Bob Arum agree you into something you don't wanna do. These aren't $10,000 towels or bait n switched paydays type things.

Also this isn't to say that maybe Haymon isn't doing f#cked up **** behind the scenes that we may learn of at a later date, there just isn't anything that makes this a clear case of favoritism (or worse things) right now is my stance.

As always Eff Panda you make some good points.

[about.thousands]

Broner had fought at 147 TWICE and held a title before he faced Porter. There was no need for a catchweight except to give Broner a telling advantage. Be careful what you type out here, you've had different stances on other catchweight situations and are basically contradicting yourself with this.

Broner is still campaigning at 140. He's had more fights at 140 than he's had at 147 and he originally skipped 140. After the Porter fight he fought twice at 140. You're acting like he's within the same division and asking for a catchweight.

[about.thousands]

Kenny Porter may be the only black man involved in boxing that doesn't suck off Mayweather, and it pisses Fl0mos off. I find that A LOT of boxing fans don't like Kenny Porter and this is the reason why.

Hopkins & Tyson suck Floyd off? The reason people don't like Porter is because he's a helicopter parent. **** is annoying.

[b00g13man]

Do people actually rate Shawn Porter? He's one of the worst fighters I have seen in recent years; I don't think it helps that he makes pressure fighting a chore to watch.

Couldn't agree more.

[NaijaD]

Broner is still campaigning at 140. He's had more fights at 140 than he's had at 147 and he originally skipped 140. After the Porter fight he fought twice at 140. You're acting like he's within the same division and asking for a catchweight.

No he's already on his way back to 147... The fact that you support that catchweight is startling seeing as you are critical of the GGG-Ward 164 situation (I am too).... Why was Broner willing to face Paulie and Maidana at 147 but bring Porter down to 144, instead of facing him at 147 where he has held a title before. GGG did the same thing with Ward and Froch but atleast he hasn't even fought above 160 yet. If you can't see how obvious your double standards here are then I don't know what to tell you.

[about.thousands]

No he's already on his way back to 147... The fact that you support that catchweight is startling seeing as you are critical of the GGG-Ward 164 situation (I am too).... Why was Broner willing to face Paulie and Maidana at 147 but bring Porter down to 144, instead of facing him at 147 where he has held a title before. GGG did the same thing with Ward and Froch but atleast he hasn't even fought above 160 yet. If you can't see how obvious your double standards here are then I don't know what to tell you.

He's back to 147 AFTER he's fought two fights at 140 AFTER he fought Porter! He didn't go back to 147 right after Porter. Broner faced Paulie and Maidana at 147 because he thought he would do well at welterweight. He skipped 140 all together. It was ****** on his part because he didn't move up gradually. His situation is nothing like GGG's situation. If GGG skipped 168 and jumped to 175 and beat Barrera and then lost to Kovalev then went down to 168 and fought a couple fights there and then fought Ward at 172, lost, then went back to 168, that would be similar. If Broner was a 140 fighter and called out people at 147 but told Porter he could ony fight him at 144 that would be the same.