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  • Originally posted by bug0092 View Post
    GGG's not going to be asking for sympathy from anyone if Canelo vacates. He'll take the belt and move onto Saunders, Jacobs, etc...Canelo will happen when Canelo feels he's ready.

    I'd love to see GGG/Ward, too. But when was that going to happen? Ward wasn't ready to fight and GGG wasn't about to commit himself to a long term contract that gave Ward a 50/50 split and a 10lb. weight advantage.

    He wanted 1 tuneup, you excuse-making clown LMAO

    And Kovalev gave him 2 LMAO

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    • Originally posted by Chuckguy View Post
      Ther is no point in debating you because you are blinded by your hate.

      And you, are blinded by love..... creepy man-love LMAO

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      • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
        He wanted 1 tuneup, you excuse-making clown LMAO

        And Kovalev gave him 2 LMAO
        You've proven yourself an angry moron over and over again in this forum. Everyone who's been here a while knows that getting into a discussion with you is like stepping in dog ****. So, against my better judgement, let's settle this crap once and for all...

        Pitch me the Ward fight. I'm GGG. I've just signed the Lemieux PPV with the Cotto/Canelo winner on deck. You're my management team and you've just received an email with the offer from Ward and RocN. Pitch it to me and convince me it's an offer I have to sign. I'm listening...

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        • Originally posted by bug0092 View Post
          You've proven yourself an angry moron over and over again in this forum. Everyone who's been here a while knows that getting into a discussion with you is like stepping in dog ****. So, against my better judgement, let's settle this crap once and for all...

          Pitch me the Ward fight. I'm GGG. I've just signed the Lemieux PPV with the Cotto/Canelo winner on deck. You're my management team and you've just received an email with the offer from Ward and RocN. Pitch it to me and convince me it's an offer I have to sign. I'm listening...

          I simply couldn't, not in good faith.

          Ward would outclass Golovkin, there is little/no doubt about it.

          It comes down to styles, and it's pretty obvious really, all the top fighters/trainers are saying the exact same thing..... lil'G needs to stay away from Andre Ward.

          I don't have a problem with it, it's a good business decision.

          What I have a problem with, are the fanboi's who insist that because Gennady simply has to be great, everyone else has to be a ducker and a coward..... despite the fact that Team Bull**** do the exact same thing.

          My issue is..... THEY LIED..... and my next issue is..... his fans know THEY LIED, and they don't care..... they will proceed to bash Cotto/Canelo/Mayweather/Ward, along with anyone else mentioned alongside Golovkin anyway.

          We saw all that same rubbish with Pacquiao..... Pacquiao is great, everyone else is a bum.

          Golovkin is clearly a manufactured fighter...... they have done the exact opposite to their PR schtick..... "anyone from 154-168"..... and yet, they drag the big guys down, and they drag the little guys up.....

          .... who woulda thought that the guy who was prepared to fight anyone, at any weight..... would kill 2 huge fights over the weight.

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          • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
            I simply couldn't, not in good faith.

            Ward would outclass Golovkin, there is little/no doubt about it.

            It comes down to styles, and it's pretty obvious really, all the top fighters/trainers are saying the exact same thing..... lil'G needs to stay away from Andre Ward.

            I don't have a problem with it, it's a good business decision.

            What I have a problem with, are the fanboi's who insist that because Gennady simply has to be great, everyone else has to be a ducker and a coward..... despite the fact that Team Bull**** do the exact same thing.

            My issue is..... THEY LIED..... and my next issue is..... his fans know THEY LIED, and they don't care..... they will proceed to bash Cotto/Canelo/Mayweather/Ward, along with anyone else mentioned alongside Golovkin anyway.

            We saw all that same rubbish with Pacquiao..... Pacquiao is great, everyone else is a bum.

            Golovkin is clearly a manufactured fighter...... they have done the exact opposite to their PR schtick..... "anyone from 154-168"..... and yet, they drag the big guys down, and they drag the little guys up.....

            .... who woulda thought that the guy who was prepared to fight anyone, at any weight..... would kill 2 huge fights over the weight.
            Obviously you've fallen for the PR machine that is Team GGG. They're awfully good at making people talk, even if its negative. Floyd made a career out of it.

            But I bolded the bottom part of your post. Did any of GGG's team ever say they'd fight at any weight? Or did they say they'd fight anyone who's at 154-168? To me those are two different things, but I don't really follow Loeffler/Sanchez as I know their job is to promote, not to tell the truth.

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            • Phuck Ward. He fights an average dude in his own wieght class, Barrera, and receives great praise while GGG fights his mandatory in his weight class, Wade, a guy that had an almost identical record to Barrera and he catches nothing but hell for it. Too much biased and hype for a chump diva.

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              • Originally posted by techliam View Post
                Obviously you've fallen for the PR machine that is Team GGG. They're awfully good at making people talk, even if its negative. Floyd made a career out of it.

                But I bolded the bottom part of your post. Did any of GGG's team ever say they'd fight at any weight? Or did they say they'd fight anyone who's at 154-168? To me those are two different things, but I don't really follow Loeffler/Sanchez as I know their job is to promote, not to tell the truth.

                When they said..... " Golovkin can beat anyone from 154-168 ".....

                ..... it was really obvious what they meant.

                Look I believe that Canelo should drop the belt, and I think that he should be more professional and fight at 154..... he can clearly make JMW.

                But what Team Golovkin did regarding the Ward situation, was downright dishonest..... those ****s lied and then proceeded to bash Ward rather than tell the truth..... so I don't think that Canelo should be more professional, simply to benefit Golovkin..... like the rest of his "fans" do.

                Golovkin fans don't give a **** about the integrity of boxing, otherwise they would call Gennady out on his lies, and they would not accept the situation with Ward...... they are only pushing the "mandatory doe" bandwagon because it benefits Golovkin.

                Let them suck Golovkin off, I got no problem with that..... but it is pretty fkn dumb to expect Canelo to..... that's all I'm saying.

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                • We just want to see GGG's team more consistent and put him in with a legitimate threat. A HOF opponent and prove the hype.

                  That's all the critics ask for is that GGG place himself at a disadvantage to make an exceptional fight.

                  I don't think that's a lot to ask for

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                  • Originally posted by bug0092 View Post
                    Apparently, it not only means any weight at any time, it means that GGG has to agree to all offers...the opponent gets to not only dictate the weight, but the purse split and the timing of the fight as well.
                    I don't blame them if I had to get in the ring with GGG I would also request that his left leg be tied to this right arm behind his back. But when asked why I would just be honest about it. What's Canelo's excuse? I'm not a true MW but I'm happy to parade this belt? I like Canelo but like any boxer, I want to see him face the toughest opponent. I don't understand these fans. I can understand Canelo being scared but why are the fans scared for him?

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                    • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                      Ummm..... ?

                      What's that funny noise, is that my bull**** detector going off again?

                      They said this.....

                      " Golovkin can beat anyone from 154-168 ".

                      Not sure how you can spin that.

                      Listen, nobody is denying that Canelo should defend at 160, but he won't.

                      And don't try to tell me that he is a genuine middleweight, because that will be a very short conversation supported with links from Kellerman/LOEFFLER.

                      He should obviously drop the belt, but he won't..... it's lame, but, moving on.

                      Golovkin on the other hand, said this..... " anyone from 154-168 ".

                      To date, despite having an extremely poor resume, he has killed TWO huge fights over the weight LMAO

                      Irony
                      /ˈʌɪrəni/
                      noun
                      a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often wryly amusing as a result.

                      Your opinion..... that Canelo is a b1tch, and Golovkin is a hero.... is cute.
                      So now you're saying that you excuse Canelo for not defending his MW belt against the mandatory because (using your excuse) he's not a real MW. Irony anybody? But it's still fun to parade the MW belt for another few weeks, assuming he beats Khan.

                      This seems like a minor thing to you. You seem to think that this is something that could easily be overlooked. Let's not focus on that, right. Lets turn the table and bash the MW champion calling him out, making'em look bad. Give me a break!

                      When the Champion calls you out you either step-up or shut-up. And the Champion calling you out doesn't make him a hero. Those were your words. It simply makes him the undisputed champion. I hope they use the threat of belt stripping to at least force him to sign a contract to face GGG next May '17.

                      If the Khan rematch doesn't end up making sense I'm interested in what direction Canelo goes. Who do you think he could fight next without looking like a coward?

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