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  • #41
    Originally posted by about.thousands View Post
    I know boxing isn't just about KO's. One enjoyed plenty of fights that didn't even have a single KD.

    But that fight was horrible. There was probably 3 clean punches landed the whole fight. Wlad wouldn't their and Fury won be moving around and throwing just a little more than Wlad. Fury gets praised for his "moving" and "feinting". Most people call that running when it's other fighters.

    Then they say Fury came in with the perfect gamelan. What was his gameplan? To throw 2 more punches a round than Wlad? And Wlad is 40 ffs! You can't put away a 40 year old champ who wouldn't throw punches? And I'm to believe this guy will outbox Joshua, Wilder, & Povetkin?

    I'm sorry but I just don't see the mastetclass performance his fans say her put on. The fight was posturing. Get close and throw wide hooks. Clinch. Repeat. They looked like two bears fighting.



    Lets be honest and truthful here please, what on earth have you seen to suggest Jshua, Wilder and Povetkin have done to dispel Fury would not outbox them ? The only reason I'd actually give any of those three a chance to beat Fury is because they all have power, something all three undeniably have, yet what they clearly haven't is the skill and awkwardness Fury has demonstrated against his opposition to date in his career.

    I see no reason to suggest those guys could in any way outbox Fury, yes they can bomb him out, I'd probably favour Wilder and Joshua to win by KO, but Povetkin get real. Fury has shown resilience against the biggest puncher in the divison in the twelfth when he landed a square punch on the champion, when Wilder and Joshua were hit by the extremly limited Molina and Whyte they both did a funny little ***** Irish folk dance.

    Their seems to be a belief on this forum Wilder wanted to face Klitschko before Fury beat him as the champ showed more signs of decline versus Fury yet before Fury beat Klitschko the former champ was on record multiple times as was Bashir, Boente and for love or money nobody could get a comment from any of Wilder's team let alone Wilder himself as to his commitment to an immediate Klitschko fight, in fact he was actually on record saying the exact opposite that he would rather wait until Klitschko began to show signs of decline, yet as soon as Klitschko lost he was expressing his disappointment he wasnt the one to be able to beat him first. Bashir was even on record stating how clearly green and limited Wilder had been against Klitschko in sparring a yeat earlier and that he understood why Wilder was desperate to avoid Klitschko at all costs. It's all out there.

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    • #42
      So called experts on here, think that Fury did nothing in that fight are complete Morons.Fury schooled one of the best heavy weights there has ever been, at times i saw Vlad with total panic in his face, ducking and turning away. It was like Man vs Boy in there.
      I dont understand, why anyone would equate entertaining fights with skill level, if you want entertainment, go and watch a domestic dust up, if you want pure technical skill then watch the furious one.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Steve plunger View Post
        This Denium is off his rocker..God knows what his reaction is gonna be when joshua or wilder KOs him, I don't think I have ever come across a poster so deluded about a fighter, Simply nuts
        Whilst I don't believe Fury should be on the p4p top ten lists I do believe Wlad deserved to be before he lost, Fury if he defeats Klitschko by KO I believe he should most certainly be on the p4p list, should he win in a more convincing manner than his previous victory over the long term champ I'd also believe he would be deserving of a top ten p4p spot most certainly above anything GGG has achieved, Kovalev I would disagree but Fury has a much bigger win than anything GGG has achieved.

        Their is only a few heavies I believe can beat Fury right now although I believe at least two if them have a hell of a lot more to prove before they could be considered genuine, Wilder and Joshua would be taken to school by Fury unless they landed that Hail Mary punch, I'm not sure Wilder with his telegraphed biggest shots even has enough power to stop Fury, honestly Wilder's power appears to be dwindling the more he raises his opposition level, I personally doubt Wilder has enough to stop the midget Povetkin let alone Fury who has demonstrated expert clinching and head movement, something Wilder hasn't shown he has any ability to ever be able to comprehend those skills.

        As for Joshua versus Fury, AJ looks extremely stiff and upright for Fury, his naiveity could very well be his one legitimate chance of winning with the big shots though Fury has shown he has been able to ride a big shot, can Joshua put a couple of huge punches together to not only land on Fury and ultimately stop him, I have my doubts.

        Fury is the best heavyweight on the planet for good reason, he has the skills, another fight versus a more willing and less reluctant Klitschko will go some way further to solidifying believe in Fury's questionable durability to the biggest punchers in the divison. If Fury comes through against Klitschko again I don't believe their is anyone with the exception of Ortiz whom will be able to defeat him. I don't see much demand for that fight and even less enthusiasm from Fury when he has is on record stating he intends to have a short career.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Scott.Weiland. View Post
          Whilst I don't believe Fury should be on the p4p top ten lists I do believe Wlad deserved to be before he lost, Fury if he defeats Klitschko by KO I believe he should most certainly be on the p4p list, should he win in a more convincing manner than his previous victory over the long term champ I'd also believe he would be deserving of a top ten p4p spot most certainly above anything GGG has achieved, Kovalev I would disagree but Fury has a much bigger win than anything GGG has achieved.

          Their is only a few heavies I believe can beat Fury right now although I believe at least two if them have a hell of a lot more to prove before they could be considered genuine, Wilder and Joshua would be taken to school by Fury unless they landed that Hail Mary punch, I'm not sure Wilder with his telegraphed biggest shots even has enough power to stop Fury, honestly Wilder's power appears to be dwindling the more he raises his opposition level, I personally doubt Wilder has enough to stop the midget Povetkin let alone Fury who has demonstrated expert clinching and head movement, something Wilder hasn't shown he has any ability to ever be able to comprehend those skills.

          As for Joshua versus Fury, AJ looks extremely stiff and upright for Fury, his naiveity could very well be his one legitimate chance of winning with the big shots though Fury has shown he has been able to ride a big shot, can Joshua put a couple of huge punches together to not only land on Fury and ultimately stop him, I have my doubts.

          Fury is the best heavyweight on the planet for good reason, he has the skills, another fight versus a more willing and less reluctant Klitschko will go some way further to solidifying believe in Fury's questionable durability to the biggest punchers in the divison. If Fury comes through against Klitschko again I don't believe their is anyone with the exception of Ortiz whom will be able to defeat him. I don't see much demand for that fight and even less enthusiasm from Fury when he has is on record stating he intends to have a short career.
          I think your seriously underestimating the speed in which joshua unloads his punches and pulls the trigger...size comparison in terms of reach and height is comparable and even in the fury-klitchcko they was pretty much the same size, physically they are well matched , u only have to go back and watch the first chisora - fury fight to see it was an evenly matched fight in terms of speed and movement....with joshua I don't think anybody realises how athletic he is and how fast his handspeed is because they look at his bulk and size and don't look quick but trust me he is quick and he will keep catching these heavyweights out....fury neither has the chin or dedication to beat a hungry joshua who will be throwing times shots and not affaid to pull the trigger unlike klitchcko, as what I said in my opinion you will see joshua keep stepping up his game and knocking them out..I don't believe fury has the power or the boxing abilty to keep Joshua away from nailing him, wilder and haye are the only 2 heavyweights that could catch joshua and knock him out imo and maybe Parker if he gets through takam...Scott take note these are wise words I'm telling u now ...joshua looks slow because of his size and muscle but his speed and combinations are very underestimated and will catch most heavyweights out.
          People spoke about Martin giving him problems but joshua never broke a sweat with him and simply countered him and finished the fight with 2 well timed right hands., other heavyweights are saying he should have got up But it's so easy to say that if you wasn't the one taking that shot on the chin, The question I would like to ask is what could fury have done with him ? Maybe just out box him a in boring fight...save this convo Scott because sometime this year or next we will be referencing this post....

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          • #45
            Originally posted by mlac View Post
            These fury guys have taken over from where the fl omos left off.
            The difference being one had world class talent and one gets by on being a big oafish feather fisted fatty.
            Some people are just happy Wlad finally lost to someone, including me. No one has ever outboxed Wlad btw so Fury deserves respect for that fight even though hes not the biggest puncher. Wlad makes every opponent look bad btw.
            Look at Wlads list of opponents, evenly matched some of them seemed to be verry good fighters but against Wlad they all looked like amateurs. It seemed they are just not doing anything and why didnt they do anything? Because they couldnt! Fury is the first one who made Wlad look like an amateur just like Wlad does with his opponents usually so to me it still is a masterful performance.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Scott.Weiland. View Post
              Lets be honest and truthful here please, what on earth have you seen to suggest Jshua, Wilder and Povetkin have done to dispel Fury would not outbox them ? The only reason I'd actually give any of those three a chance to beat Fury is because they all have power, something all three undeniably have, yet what they clearly haven't is the skill and awkwardness Fury has demonstrated against his opposition to date in his career.

              I see no reason to suggest those guys could in any way outbox Fury, yes they can bomb him out, I'd probably favour Wilder and Joshua to win by KO, but Povetkin get real. Fury has shown resilience against the biggest puncher in the divison in the twelfth when he landed a square punch on the champion, when Wilder and Joshua were hit by the extremly limited Molina and Whyte they both did a funny little ***** Irish folk dance.

              Their seems to be a belief on this forum Wilder wanted to face Klitschko before Fury beat him as the champ showed more signs of decline versus Fury yet before Fury beat Klitschko the former champ was on record multiple times as was Bashir, Boente and for love or money nobody could get a comment from any of Wilder's team let alone Wilder himself as to his commitment to an immediate Klitschko fight, in fact he was actually on record saying the exact opposite that he would rather wait until Klitschko began to show signs of decline, yet as soon as Klitschko lost he was expressing his disappointment he wasnt the one to be able to beat him first. Bashir was even on record stating how clearly green and limited Wilder had been against Klitschko in sparring a yeat earlier and that he understood why Wilder was desperate to avoid Klitschko at all costs. It's all out there.
              Povetkin is too smal for fury and fury would just lean on him pepper him and grab him when he was ..povetkin might land a lucky left hook but it would be unlikely if he did that...wilder and joshua both can match fury in reach...yes fury is 85 in reach and joshua & wilder 83 inch reach but it's furys shoulders that are wider because of his 6ft 9 frame.. The reason why wilder could win is because he throws big long punches from a distance and with speed..he also not affraid to let his arms go...that's the only reason why klitchcko lost last time if he just let his hands go ..1 is the rounds could have been scored to him and 2 he would have caught fury and knocked him out, both wilder and joshua I feel would catch and land on furys chin...we will see

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              • #47
                Well, he's got to say something to sell a rematch of a one sided fight that was incredibly boring. I've almost got the feeling a few times that Fury feels bad for Wlad these days. It's weird. If it goes like the first fight I wouldn't be shocked to see Fury carry Wlad a bit. But with Fury, who the **** knows? You're as likely to see him hug Wlad and compliment him after the rematch as you would be to see him taunting Wlad mercilessly.
                Last edited by Motofan; 04-22-2016, 05:31 PM.

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                • #48
                  Is anyone actually looking forward to this rematch? First one could of won worst fight if the decade.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by cork View Post
                    Is anyone actually looking forward to this rematch? First one could of won worst fight if the decade.
                    I'm looking forward to seeing what the former champ has left, if he fights like he did in the 12th for 3-4 rounds I think he wins by KO, if he's as unactive as he was in the first fight and throws less than half the punches he was doing 3 top years ago like the first fight I suspect he's still too much for the likes of Joshua and Wilder he justs needs to stay away from Ortiz and Fury, if he faces Joshua for the IBF and Wilder for the WBC I'll be happy whatever the result versus Fury in July, Wlad is far too much for those two hence the reason Wilder is too worried to face him and look bad against a guy Fury beat.

                    Joshua needs a few years before facing Klitschko yet, I doubt he'll ever be ready before Wlad retires. Joshua shoud stick to facing guys like Breazeale, Molina and Scott it's a step up from who he has faced to date and the Brits will pay anything to watch him versus anyone.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Steve plunger View Post
                      I think your seriously underestimating the speed in which joshua unloads his punches and pulls the trigger...size comparison in terms of reach and height is comparable and even in the fury-klitchcko they was pretty much the same size, physically they are well matched , u only have to go back and watch the first chisora - fury fight to see it was an evenly matched fight in terms of speed and movement....with joshua I don't think anybody realises how athletic he is and how fast his handspeed is because they look at his bulk and size and don't look quick but trust me he is quick and he will keep catching these heavyweights out....fury neither has the chin or dedication to beat a hungry joshua who will be throwing times shots and not affaid to pull the trigger unlike klitchcko, as what I said in my opinion you will see joshua keep stepping up his game and knocking them out..I don't believe fury has the power or the boxing abilty to keep Joshua away from nailing him, wilder and haye are the only 2 heavyweights that could catch joshua and knock him out imo and maybe Parker if he gets through takam...Scott take note these are wise words I'm telling u now ...joshua looks slow because of his size and muscle but his speed and combinations are very underestimated and will catch most heavyweights out.
                      People spoke about Martin giving him problems but joshua never broke a sweat with him and simply countered him and finished the fight with 2 well timed right hands., other heavyweights are saying he should have got up But it's so easy to say that if you wasn't the one taking that shot on the chin, The question I would like to ask is what could fury have done with him ? Maybe just out box him a in boring fight...save this convo Scott because sometime this year or next we will be referencing this post....
                      Dude not one person on the planet thought Martin had a chance, Laced Up was even saying the guy was shyt and he's the biggest blow hard Brit fan boy on the entire site.

                      Fury can't take AJ's power but I honestly think Fury would knock him out early doors anyway, Whyte is worse than Molina and Breazeale and he had him weak at the knees. Fury can create punches from angles Joshua does not know exist, one cross with some zang on it and Fury would seize upon him and starch his ass.

                      You can tell me all you like but Joshua looks limited in what I've seen, I really do hope Klitschko can beat Fury and Hearn has the stones to make a fight with Wlad, that fight would be an exceptionally short nights work for the former champ.

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