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never mind that pacman fight from years ago, look no further than last weekend, clearest fix and robbery in recent years.
still feel sorry for that bosnian dude...
still feel sorry for that bosnian dude...
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Where there is money you will always find corruption. The planet is run on nothing but corruption from the very top of the tree.
So don't ****ing moan about it because it's done, it's there and it's never changing.Comment
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The Kalajdzic vs Browne fight? First off I thought that was a close fight. I definitely agree the ref calling the early KD that wasn't & not calling a later KD that was ended up deciding the fight. Call one correctly & its a draw, call both correctly & Kalajdzic wins. But the level of planning here to have the cards work out like that + the action in the ring to work out like it did is some low level Oceans Eleven **** that I have no faith in all these parties pulling off.
For sure there is a ton of stuff to discuss thats sketchy in boxing I just don't think that particular fight qualifies outside of the ref miscalls which could just be legit ref miscalls not a conspiracy.
And honestly if the ref calls weren't just miscalls, which I'll agree I have a hard time believing myself with how obvious things looked to me, its probably more likely its just standard favoritism towards the "money guy" which Browne would qualify as such with his US Olympic pedigree. Not unlike happens in the NBA quite often where fouls on the big star are called quick & fouls committed by the big star aren't called as easily.
Not to say that isn't a problem cuz it definitely is & maybe the most wide spread problem in the game cuz it happens from the biggest fights down to the 4-0 prospect fighting the 2-7 but tough opponent who might have a lucky moment or two that get diminished by the ref or miss scored by the judges, but its a step down from a fix.Last edited by Eff Pandas; 04-20-2016, 12:20 PM.Comment
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How many things have to happen for you to say hang on a minute this schit is fixed?
Literally every single thing that would indicate foul play, happened.
I was watching at 4.am and my mouth was hanging open shouting WTF!?
I dont see how you can say it was A) a close fight and B) defend that BS in any way shape or form.
The fact you allude to having a bias reff or buying off a judge is equal to ' oceans 11 ' is a bit bizarre tbh.Last edited by mlac; 04-20-2016, 12:29 PM.Comment
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I'm in agreement with you that f#cked up **** happens in boxing all the time. Look no further than the alphabet groups monthly rankings for that. I just don't think everything is a fix. Legit f#ck ups happens. Favoritism, which is definitely a problem, happens, but everything isn't some boxing illuminati type thing is all I'm saying. And like I said I thought that fight was close. Its no surprise some miscalls decided things.
The holding was a problem too, but lets be real holding happens a lot & the ref lets it go. All of the refs, not just this one. I'm often amazed no one ever gets a point taken for holding (think I've seen it once or twice maybe) & I'd be 100% behind enforcing that rule harsher. I've even stated that I think there should be points taken when a guy is aggressively holding after he's hurt or dropped. BUT the reality is thats a rule thats virtually never enforced as much as it should be. Its not a conspiracy that everyone in boxing isn't enforcing excessive holding so Marcus Browne can get a decision in a 8 round fight no one cares about cept those two guys & their families.Literally every single thing that would indicate foul play, happened.
I was watching at 4.am and my mouth was hanging open shouting WTF!?
I dont see how you can say it was A) a close fight and B) defend that BS in any way shape or form.
The fact you allude to having a bias reff or buying off a judge is equal to ' oceans 11 ' is a bit bizarre tbh.
I didn't score the fight to be fair so its not like I got a scorecard to show you so I'll stick with my simple stance of it seemed close. I felt many rounds were hard to score & I thought you could make arguments easy one way or the other & in that case the hometown guy is gonna get the edge. I mean even the judge that gave the fight to Kalajdzic only had him winning 5-3, one round different & he gots it a draw. Its a close fight. The other two had it 5-3 & 4-3-1 Browne. With the KD rounds being decided that just means that the 2nd-5th & 7th-8th rounds were won 4-2, 3-2-1, 2-4 towards Browne so one round different = Kalajdzic wins by split decision.
Do you honestly think the 3 middle aged judges & ref had this all planned out mathematically to have Browne win by 1 round with the KD Kalajdzic got + the miscall KD + the not called KD by Kalajdzic? Thats what I mean with the Oceans Eleven comment. Good luck trying to fix a fight where the margin of error is a round scored different or 1 KD being called &/or 1 KD not being called. If it woulda been a wider decision I could see your point. You don't go rigging fights to be this close to losing. In particular a bs nothing fight no one cares about. It'd be a hell of a lot of trouble for virtually no upside.
This is standard homecooking we see all the time not a conspiracy or planned fix. This was Browne's turf. He got the benefit of the doubt, as happens on all levels of the sport & happens in other sports for that matter. Its f#cked up, it shouldn't happen, but it does at all levels of the game.Comment
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