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  • #41
    Originally posted by TheBoxingXpert View Post
    To me, Golovkin has to beat these guys to be an ATG:
    - Brook or Lara
    - Saunders
    - Jacobs
    - DeGale/Jack winner
    - Canelo
    - Kovalev
    - Ward
    - Stevenson


    Of course, all of them. That would take his resume to a new level.
    I think this list is a great starting point. I made a few additions to your list to cap it off.

    If he can put up these type of numbers, we may began to talk about ATG status.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
      What do you, the people, think is fair?

      Does he become an ATG if he beats Canelo at 155?

      Does he have to beat Canelo at 155, Brook at 157, Jacobs, Lara, BJS, Eubank at 160.... And then DeGale, Ramirez, Jack, Dirrel Bros at 168. Ward and Kovalev at 175?

      I want to hear from the people. Do you have low or high expectations for GGG to reach to become an ATG?

      What's the standard?
      Nice to hear Kovalev is open to facing GGG

      Dare GGG be great?

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      • #43
        ATG? Whew, I'm not sure he really has many options to lead there.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Dr Rumack View Post
          There is no 'who' at the moment. It's really a question of how he beats what's available. If he destroyed guys like Canelo and Jacobs it would be significant.

          It's probably more about longevity. It will be whatever he achieves over the course of the next 6-7 years. Like Hopkins in a way.
          I can't believe Abel and Loeffler haven't had much to say about Jacobs. An opponent coming off an excellent win who they'd still be a bit of a favorite to beat. Plus it'd probably sell out MSG. Seems like an ideal level of risk/reward.
          Last edited by BrometheusBob.; 04-23-2016, 07:48 PM.

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          • #45
            Just do things others can't do. Like ko everyone

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
              What do you, the people, think is fair?

              Does he become an ATG if he beats Canelo at 155?

              Does he have to beat Canelo at 155, Brook at 157, Jacobs, Lara, BJS, Eubank at 160.... And then DeGale, Ramirez, Jack, Dirrel Bros at 168. Ward and Kovalev at 175?

              I want to hear from the people. Do you have low or high expectations for GGG to reach to become an ATG?

              What's the standard?
              Dominic Wade!!!../

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              • #47
                It will be tough for him. He is a really good fighter but at his age there are not a lot of legacy fights out there for him. Even a win against Canelo would not put him in the ATG category.
                To build an ATG legacy he will have to retire undefeated and have long run as there are no big names for him.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by BrometheusBob. View Post
                  ATG? Whew, I'm not sure he really has many options to lead there.
                  ^This. At this point, there's little he can do and fighting 175lbers is hardly a feasible option. 160 and 168 are very shallow now. Fighting 154lbers isn't going to catapult him there.

                  The opportunities have passed him by. If he had gone through with the Ward fight (and succeeded), plus have talked a pre-retirement Mayweather or Froch into fighting (and succeeded). Take 2 of those 3 and add in a Canelo or something similar and you might have an argument but that ship has already sailed, the buffet is packed in, the road is closed, there is no longer a path for him being an ATG.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by BrometheusBob. View Post
                    ATG? Whew, I'm not sure he really has many options to lead there.
                    Nor do I, I think he can become one of the great middleweights and the best fighter out of his nation.

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                    • #50
                      So what's the standard?

                      Canelo is out the way. What does it take from here?

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