Vasyl Lomachenko

[bojangles1987]

I'm still impressed that he did as well as he did against Salido, even though he lost. That fight was purely an experience issue for him, not a talent or skill issue.

[HI-TECH Boxing]

Loma moved quickly because he stayed in the amateurs longer than most, so he wanted to make up for lost time (not because he was arrogant and thought he could beat everyone without any pro experience like some people think) and of course he wanted to make history.
No point in listening to the trolls or haters.

I wouldn't advise fighters to move up that fast and they shouldn't be pressured to. Everybody is different. I think that learning/building up stage is very important. Loma didn't really have that and has to learn it the hard way.
Also, Loma only fights twice a year now. That's not something you want.
I think early in pro careers fighters should be fighting at least 4 times a year.
While I do admire that Loma moved up fast, it does have it's consequences and like I said I wouldn't advise fighters to move up that fast.

I wish Loma would fight three or four times a year. He still has much to learn as a pro.

[Irony123]

Did I say that? Please point out where I said that?

It's just hilarious how you lament how boxers are treated............................... when you have done the EXACT thing you are lamenting.

ok you didn't say it but here is my point, i said that fighters get unfair criticisms because of race, you pointed out based on my thread history it was funny that i made that statement, thus alluding to (maybe i am wrong) that i also criticize fighters due to race. You said the same thing in this qoute so i am not sure i understand what you are referring to.

i have criticized a few fighters for a few of the things they do, and no fighter is above criticism but i assure you that it isn't race related... i never criticized fighter A for doing something that i go around and praise fighter B for doing it.

if i misunderstood your statement then please dumb it down for me.

[Jimmy 23]

He went through two Ol.Games and WSB... so it's not big deal as you think

[-PBP-]

Very impressive 6 fights in. That's why I'm a fan of dude.

Leon Spinks beating Ali at 6-0 probably surpasses tho.

[Irony123]

He went through two Ol.Games and WSB... so it's not big deal as you think

he is definitely an experienced guy, but we all know that amateurs and WSB is different than the pros... i think he was fighting in 10 round fights in his first fight (i could be wrong) with smaller gloves then what WSB/amateurs offer.

[Irony123]

Very impressive 6 fights in. That's why I'm a fan of dude.

Leon Spinks beating Ali at 6-0 probably surpasses tho.

Damn that is more impressive, my only question is... because i lack knowledge in that area and because i can only go via boxrec was that this fight has taken place towards the tale end of Ali's reign... was he still impressive at that time and was the decision accurate?

[-PBP-]

Damn that is more impressive, my only question is... because i lack knowledge in that area and because i can only go via boxrec was that this fight has taken place towards the tale end of Ali's reign... was he still impressive at that time and was the decision accurate?

The decision was 100% correct. Ali was well past his best but he still hadn't lost officially for years. (Although some people felt he lost to Young and Norton but I don't want to derail this thread)

[Irony123]

The decision was 100% correct. Ali was well past his best but he still hadn't lost officially for years. (Although some people felt he lost to Young and Norton but I don't want to derail this thread)

thanks PBP in that case i really appreciate your candid response. well ok definitely as far as the early resume Leon Spinks has the best 8 fight resume (as far as name recognition goes... especially if Ali was a shell of his prime)... That being said looking at his resume... you won't see anything like that now a days..