CBZ recognizes Pacquiao's lineage at WW

[techliam]

also not convinced by this latest WW lineal title win.

Other than fighting each other neither guy has a significant WW win in years.

If they were no.1 and 2 then its by default because the division is so shallow at the moment

Well the lineal title is just a title like any other. I think people put way too much emphasis on it - it can be illegitimate or worthless just like any other ABC title. The most impressive thing about Pacquiao's achievement though, in all 5 weights he was the no.1 fighter by consensus.

You said it yourself, its not the be all or end all

[Larry the boss]

he never won LW lineal did he?

hold up you are right he sure didnt

[Tom Cruise]

hold up you are right he sure didnt

That was 130lbs i believe.

Pac only fought Diaz at LW IIRC

[Larry the boss]

No, he won titles in 4, Flyweight, Featherweight, Lightweight, and Welterweight.

He was never lineal at lightweight..he was lineal at 130 and 140 but not 135

[Larry the boss]

That was 130lbs i believe.

Pac only fought Diaz at LW IIRC

you are 100 percent correct...........his and Armstrong won lineal in 3 of the original weight classes.

[Tom Cruise]

Well the lineal title is just a title like any other. I think people put way too much emphasis on it - it can be illegitimate or worthless just like any other ABC title. The most impressive thing about Pacquiao's achievement though, in all 5 weights he was the no.1 fighter by consensus.

You said it yourself, its not the be all or end all

Oh yeah not trying to crap on his resume at all. Its amazing.

I edited my post above to say that if i was boxings president, I'd have had no.1 spot vacant (to be filled by Pac vs Tim winner) and no.2 spot to be filled by Thurman Porter winner. Fight between two winners would be a legit lineal title I reckon.

[Larry the boss]

And pac has won titles in more of those original 8 than anyone else ever.

He is tied with Armstrong with 3...impressive

[madsweeney]

you are 100 percent correct...........his and Armstrong won lineal in 3 of the original weight classes.

If you're talking lineal in the original 8, yes, he is tied. If we are talking world titles then he has 4. That's the problem with comparing eras, different standards and you can sit and argue all day about those standards but I guess its not a bad thing to tie a record with someone who is consistently considered a top 5 ATG.

[techliam]

He is tied with Armstrong with 3...impressive

and Bob Fitzsimmons

Middleweight Champion in 1891, Heavyweight Champion in 1897 and then went on to win the Light Heavyweight crown in 1903

[Larry the boss]

If you're talking lineal in the original 8, yes, he is tied. If we are talking world titles then he has 4. That's the problem with comparing eras, different standards and you can sit and argue all day about those standards.

Yea they are talking lineal..even if we bring in world titles WBO is still not on par with the history here...WBO is the only world title he won at 147